Posted on 10/22/2009 8:35:02 AM PDT by DCBryan1
War without end
Gene Lyons
One of the enduring oddities of American foreign policy debate is that asking the most obvious questions is all but forbidden.
For example, how does Afghanistan pose a threat to the United States?
Certainly not in any military sense. The impoverished, largely illiterate Afghans have no army apart from the one U.S. and NATO forces, with very limited success, are trying to train, no air force, no navy, no offensive military capacity whatsoever.
From the U.S. perspective, Afghanistan is the absolute end of the earth. Indeed, its not a nation at all. The idea that well-intentioned Westerners can create an efficient central government on, say, the Swiss model where none has ever existed, much less one acceptable to Afghanistans many warring tribes, sects and ethnic factions, is almost certainly a delusion.
Heres the reality, as explained by a theater manager in somewhat Westernized Kabul to The New York Times: The Afghan people are not mentally united. . . . An Uzbek will never vote for a Tajik. A Tajik will never vote for a Pashtun.
The prevailing view, reporter Sabrina Tavernise found, appears to be that President Hamid Karzais recent election victory was both fraudulent and inevitable. Almost nobody believes a recount would solve anything.
Even if every Afghan casts their vote for [runner-up Abdullah] Abdullah, he wont be president because the foreigners dont want him to be, another man told Tavernise. Nobody respected the peoples vote.
Afghans see the Karzai government as organized thievery with a Pashtun accent. Period. Thus while veteran Washington Post columnist Jim Hoagland is likely correct that President Obamas seeming indecision about sending 40,000 more American soldiers there is actually a squeeze play to pressure Karzai into sharing power with more honest, competent Afghans, its also apt to show more illusory than real results.
Had the U.S. and its allies not diverted manpower and resources from Afghanistan to a futile, unnecessary war in Iraq, the counterinsurgency techniques proposed by Gen. Stanley McChrystal to persuade Taliban fighters to put down their weapons might have worked.
Eight bloody years on, however, what motivates the insurgency has been captured in an extraordinary series by David Rohde, the New York Times reporter rescued after seven months as a Taliban prisoner.
While his captors harbored many delusions about Westerners, Rohde writes, U.S. anti-terrorist policies had galvanized them.
They said large numbers of civilians had been killed in Afghanistan, Iraq and the Palestinian territories in aerial bombings. Muslim prisoners had been physically abused and sexually humiliated in Iraq. Scores of men had been detained in Cuba and Afghanistan for up to seven years without charges.
Rohde witnessed Taliban militants weeping over a NATO air strike that killed scores of Afghan women and children.
To Americans, he writes these episodes were aberrations. To my captors, they were proof that the United States was a hypocritical and duplicitous power that flouted international law.
When I told them I was an innocent civilian who should be released, they responded that the United States had held and tortured Muslims in secret detention centers for years. Commanders said they themselves had been imprisoned, their families ignorant of their fate. Why, they asked, should they treat me differently?
And yet they did. Because his kidnappers saw Rohde as a valuable commodity, he was housed comfortably, provided with toiletries, fresh food and water, newspapers and a shortwave radio. While often threatened, he says he was never tortured; his captors even took him to a remote spot in the mountains to shoot a video making his plight appear worse than it was.
Although it infuriates some Americans to hear that terrorists have recognizable human motives, understanding them is also crucial to what McChrystal hopes to achieve there: separating ethnic Pashtun insurgents from al-Qaida fanatics by offering what his report calls reasonable incentives to stop fighting and return to normalcy, possibly including the provision of employment and protection.
U.S. intelligence officers have told The Boston Globe that an estimated 90 percent of Afghan fighters constitute a tribal, localized insurgency and 10 percent are hard-core ideologues fighting for the Taliban.
And what if a U.S. president recognized that destroying mud villages and killing children in distant Afghanistan isnt making America safer? That endless war creates endless enemies? What if he showed enough political courage to say that 100 percent security from terrorism isnt possible? That the mad, quixotic attempt to achieve it is sacrificing the lives of our best and bravest while it bankrupts the treasury?
Who in the world would be angry with him except the Washington war lobby and Osama bin Laden?
Free-lance columnist Gene Lyons is a Houston, Ark., author and recipient of the National Magazine Award.
Clearly this person has no ability to do critical thinking. Does a rat nest in your neighbors house pose a threat to you? What if he lets it go and within 2 years there's thousands of rats. Does it pose a threat now?
Lyin’ Gene Lyons is at it again! What a jerk!

Having read Lyon’s past idiot columns, I wondered who the lib scribbler would be. I didn’t get past his name. His columns are just as predictable as Mo Dowd’s i.e. Republicans evil and America to blame for the world’s problems.
Very doubtful this...man has ever been in the US military.
Gee, now I understand. Afghanistan is kind of like Somalia who, as everyone knows, is totally harmless. Of course, we now know that it was the Bush Administration and a terrorist cabal led by Cheney that was responsible for 911. Just ask Van Jones.
Pretty soon we will all be good Maoists and peace will reign supreme.
Also doubt he has ever been to Afganistan?
In Arkansas, he considered left of Rahm Emanual and Axelrod and even Obama
Who in the world would be angry with him except the Washington war lobby and Osama bin Laden?
Me! I would be angry at him for not standing up
to terrorism.
Je Vomir!
I think I just threw up my stomach!
Dear Gene,
Right now I would have to say the biggest threat to
the United States is the Obama administration.
Tet.
Gene Lyons:
One would have thought that he would have dried up by now and been burned up with the rest of the buffalo chips.
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