There is NOTHING secret about what Nanny state Pelosi or that old 'lion' that just left the Senate socialistic/marixst believe. So please do not tell me what I view or what I assume to be regarding the workings out of Rome. Christ said you can know them by their fruits.
And there is NO secret that both of these peoples have/had connections right to the seat in Rome.
And it is no secret that some in the hierarchy do in fact push for and demand universal health care if funding for abortion is dropped.
Welll in my world there is NOT a heap bit of difference in 'pills for old American grandmas instead of procedures' to save the almighty dollar. And I heard not 'get behind me' calls when BamaKennedy told one of his religious backers about his partnership with his god deciding who lives and who dies.
It is downright amusing to read the unadulterated hate filled ridicule toward protestants while disregarding with the complete and total blindness to what actually is taking place. I continually read about the mean evil press picking on the Church, when everybody know those heretic protestants are far worse. I know personally what it means to be non-Catholic to Catholics. That is ok because that is what they have drummed into their heads first and foremost.
Now I have stated that I believe with my whole being that every individual has the God given 'right' to choose which path they will take. But I have that same God given 'right', and your rights in the Heavenly Father's eyes do not supersede my rights. I am NOT pushing my beliefs upon anyone but I am taking a stand against those who use the government to do their work.
I can look at nations all around this globe where in those billion + members reside and I can compare and contrast standards and blessings borne out of what our founders founded. Christ said there would always be poor among us, but He never said that it was the Church or any governments duty to take from one by law and give to another. Charity is not and cannot be legislated or it is NOT charity.
Obviously there is a problem in what type of food gets served and what Christ was instructing those who come in His name are serving up. Now I personally speaking find a mountain of hypocrisy of any religious leader sitting upon a vast treasury telling me that it is my duty to pay the way for 'illegal' acts and solicit illegal activity and send me the bill.
And if you read what I did say before there is but ONE Heavenly Father who created all souls, and there is but ONE Savior that IF the individual chooses, but there are named 7 churches. Now just who is it that I protest?
Second, I am simply not going to engage further until we reach an agreement about the mendacity of the initial post. I really am not. People can try to take me off topic, and I may go a little way, but I will keep coming back to the starting post.
This is not "shoot and move" combat. Your side does not get to shoot a lie at us and then shift and shoot something else from somewhere else, even were that something else to be true. Somebody has to take responsibility for what is said. First there is accountability about the lie, or there really is no point in my even reading what is written in high dudgeon, especially when it seems to be irrelevant and emotional.
From here what it too often looks like is that a thread about Catholicism or "The Vatican" is just a chance to vent. Why would I, why should I allow myself to be verbally pummeled that way? Getting clobbered, verbally or otherwise, doesn't change my mind.