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To: luckybogey

Thanks for that wealth of truly outstanding information!
I wish all FReepers would respond in kind, when one is seriously trying to figure things out, and not be so quick with wisecracks or dogma.
The very strange, very vexing, and to my mind, unprecedented thing about this upstate NY race is almost that Ms Scozzafava seems almost intentionally to be put into the race TO LOSE, PUT INTO THE RACE BY THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT TO LOSE!! NOT TO LOSE FOR HERSELF, but to force a loss FOR THE PARTY! She has backing of key people,
and she has so little to offer that’s any different from the Democrat candidate, that the electorate may just go for the Democrat candidate in what was always a Republican stronghold. This woman, as has been said, is not a RINO, she is virtually a Liberal Democrat! So she seems (again, though, maybe just a sui generis individual case, and NOT a trend) to represent something that I can’t ever remember seeing before. Something that looks ludicrous in a way serious political candidates are never SUPPOSED to look
I characterized her not as just an Arlen-Specter-in-Waiting,but like an Arlen Specter that’s ALREADY defected, and is being trotted out for the voter’s approval.


20 posted on 10/23/2009 8:17:09 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (Time is the school in which we learn that time is the fire in which we burn.)
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To: supremedoctrine

BTT


21 posted on 10/23/2009 8:32:48 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ( A, you're a-dor-a-ble, B, you're bus-ted.........)
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QUESTION: If the election for Congress were held today, would you vote for Bill Owens, the Democrat, Dede Scozzafava, the Republican, or Doug Hoffman, the Conservative Party candidate?

DEDE SCOZZAFAVA

DOUG HOFFMAN

BILL OWENS

UNDECIDED

ALL

30 23 35 12

MEN

28 28 31 13

WOMEN

32 18 39 11

DEMOCRATS

16 8 60 16

REPUBLICANS

46 27 18 9

INDEPENDENTS

22 35 32 11

18-29

26 20 38 16

30-44

30 22 36 12

45-59

32 24 34 10

60+

31 26 33 10

QUESTION: If the election for Congress were held today, which candidate would be your second choice, Bill Owens, the Democrat, or Dede Scozzafava, the Republican? (ONLY ASKED AMONG THE 23% VOTING FOR HOFFMAN)

DEDE SCOZZAFAVA

BILL OWENS

WON'T VOTE

UNDECIDED

ALL

9 3 26 62

MEN

7 3 29 61

WOMEN

12 3 22 63

DEMOCRATS

3 6 18 73

REPUBLICANS

13 1 21 65

INDEPENDENTS

5 3 35 57

18-29

6 4 23 67

30-44

8 4 24 64

45-59

10 3 28 59

60+

11 2 30 57

QUESTION: Do you favor or oppose creating a government-administered health insurance option that anyone can purchase to compete with private insurance plans?

FAVOR

OPPOSE

NOT SURE

ALL

52 42 6

MEN

48 44 8

WOMEN

56 40 4

DEMOCRATS

83 12 5

REPUBLICANS

27 68 5

INDEPENDENTS

55 38 7

18-29

57 38 5

30-44

55 40 5

45-59

49 44 7

60+

47 46 7

QUESTION: Do you favor or oppose allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry legally?

FAVOR

OPPOSE

NOT SURE

ALL

39 53 8

MEN

36 57 7

WOMEN

42 49 9

DEMOCRATS

64 31 5

REPUBLICANS

18 72 10

INDEPENDENTS

42 50 8

18-29

43 48 9

30-44

49 52 8

45-59

38 55 7

60+

35 57 8

QUESTION: Which of the following comes closes to you view on abortion? (ROTATED): Abortion should be legal in all cases, OR Abortion should be legal in most cases, OR Abortion should be illegal in most cases, OR Abortion should be illegal in all cases.

LEGAL ALL

LEGAL MOST

ILLEGAL MOST

ILLEGAL ALL

NOT SURE

ALL

31 17 16 27 9

MEN

28 16 18 28 10

WOMEN

34 18 14 26 8

DEMOCRATS

54 19 13 9 5

REPUBLICANS

14 15 20 41 10

INDEPENDENTS

31 18 14 26 11

18-29

33 18 13 24 12

30-44

34 19 14 25 8

45-59

30 16 18 29 7

60+

26 15 19 31 9

Demographics

MEN

286 48%

WOMEN

314 52%

DEMOCRATS

191 32%

REPUBLICANS

251 42%

INDEPENDENTS

158 26%

18-29

89 15%

30-44

205 34%

45-59

211 35%

60+

95 16%
------------- Methodology NY-23 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT POLL – OCTOBER 2009 This survey was conducted by Research 2000 of Rockville, Maryland. A total of 600 likely voters in the Twenty-Third Congressional District were interviewed by telephone between October 19 and October 21, 2009. Those interviewed were selected by the random variation of the last four digits of telephone numbers. A cross-section of exchanges was utilized in order to ensure an accurate reflection of the district. Quotas were assigned to reflect the voter registration of distribution by district. The margin for error, according to standards customarily used by statisticians, is no more than plus or minus 4% percentage points. This means that there is a 95 percent probability that the “true” figure would fall within that range if the entire population were sampled. The margin for error is higher for any subgroup, such as for gender or party affiliation. ------------ Source: Daily Kos/Research 2000 NY-23 Poll Research 2000, MoE 4%, Oct 19, 2009 - Oct 21, 2009 http://www.dailykos.com/statepoll/2009/10/21/NY/403
22 posted on 10/23/2009 8:53:14 PM PDT by luckybogey
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