This, is a photo of the robber from yesterday's unsuccessful robbery in St.Paul
This, is a photo of a guy robbing a bank in Rosemount, a couple of miles from St. Paul, TODAY!
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Posted on 10/21/2009 11:46:36 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
With her life perhaps just a pull of the trigger from ending, a St. Paul bank teller refused to hand over the cash.
But the gunman, rather than firing the black handgun he had aimed at the teller, fled on foot without a nickel more than he had when he entered the bank Tuesday afternoon.
The FBI describes the suspect who tried to rob the Cherokee State Bank at 607 Smith Av. S. as white, in his 30s, 5 feet 8 to 6 feet tall, with a slender to medium build. He was wearing a black coat, blue jeans, a white bandanna around his neck, and a red baseball cap. He was last seen running across Smith Avenue in front of the bank, located across the Mississippi River from downtown.
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HAH!!!!
The article isn't clear, but what if it was a revolver and she could clearly see that it wasn't loaded? What if the gun was obviously airsoft or a squirt gun? Should she still hand over the money in those cases?
I agree with you, she did the wrong thing. She should have shot the guy and made society safer. :)
Facts not in evidence. You likely don't have any other examples of a teller saying "no" and getting shot, yet we have lot's of compliant tellers getting shot anyway. Don't you need data points to start claiming statistical probability. Besides which, why would a robber shoot customers? There is absolutely no pay off in that.
This woman was a total and complete anomoly. Your proved my point. Thanks.
Again, you'll have to show me the data points on that. We know compliant tellers occasionally get shot and that this woman did not.
Most bank robbers don't even have a weapon. Of those that do, most have no intention of shooting someone.
My issue is not with what you are telling employees to do, but rather with the fact that you would fire someone for responding the way that she did, but not for being too frightened to do anything at all. Fight or flight" is self preservation, it is generally very visceral, yet you only recognize 50% of that equation.
I would be full of bloodlust to get ahold of the shooter. Blame is best put where it belongs.
Agree....she will get fired for not acting like a sheep and doing as the BG says.
Pathetic country we’ve become.
Bad guys also sometimes open fire after they get what they want, you know.
Check out mt post #65....
This one was a little too close to home.....
Its the persons call. If her life meant less to her than the banks money she did absolutely the right thing.
Update at post #65....
Give it up, you lost.
Well...now thank you for taking the time to post THAT to me...your words just put everything in perspective.
Not.
“...and maybe getting set upon by bystanders fearing for their lives.”
That’s funny, it really is.
Why is that funny? Fight-or-flight has that “fight” component for a reason. A gunman probably wouldn’t want to find out that there are more “fighters” in his midst than “flighters”...
I guess I’m just jaded, that most of the people I’ve ever seen are afraid to teach their Sunday school class, let alone beat down a gunman. When it comes to fight or flight, they would do neither, just cower.
I understand what you’re saying. I submit that United 93 is a good idea of what immediate fears people are capable of overcoming if they feel imminently threatened. Once bullets start flying, it become just as unpredictable to the gunman what happens next, and often it ends up a hostage situation, but all it takes is one or two people who are willing to put their lives on the line to disarm him; and if the purpose is to just get some money, a bank robber is not going to invite that possibility unless there’s provocation, and a defiant teller could spark that.
Unfortunately, I don’t think any of us can be sure how we would react until we’re in such a situation. Hopefully we would all be courageous.
To my original point, telling this bank robber “no” is not going to deter others from robbing banks. The teller is not going to better her chances of surviving by defying him, but she certainly creates motivation for the gunman to inflict harm out of frustration or desperation. Thank God he just fled.
I’m glad also that she and none of her coworkers or customers were harmed. Tellers can’t have a pistol or shotgun strapped to the underside of their counters to shoot through at a robber, so cooperation is probably best. Running a motorcycle shop is another story. I can’t recall ever having heard of a bike shop being robbed. Most mechanics that I know are armed. That and we usually don’t take in much money, so why bother.
One of my sisters did the bank teller gig for about 20 years, 18 years of which she lived in a small town with no robberies, then 2 years in San Diego with 4 robberies per year. She quit the bank job and drives a bus now.
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