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Posted on 10/21/2009 7:56:56 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
He added that Congress has broad authority to force Americans to purchase other things as well, so long as it was trying to promote the general welfare. Bill of Attainder - ask the Brits how it worked out for them in the mid-1770s.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:04:30 AM PDT
by
IYAS9YAS
(The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
To: Sub-Driver
One of the stated purposes of our government is indeed to “promote the general welfare”; but ONLY through the ENUMERATED powers given to the government.
This is not some abstract concept, our founders were clear that ‘promoting the general welfare’ was not a blank check of government power.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:05:53 AM PDT
by
allmendream
(Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
To: GeronL
I am sure SoSo will fall in line with her masters. I have no doubt that Sotomayor will. But then so would have Souter. The battle needs to be fought and won before one of the more rational justices needs to be replaced. So long as Obama is replacing the Ginsburgs and the Souters and the Sevens' of the court then it liberal for liberal. If he has a chance to replace an Alito or a Scalia or a Thomas then we're sunk.
To: Sub-Driver
Govt "health care" will enable the govt to eliminate the 2nd Amendment & ban guns since guns impact health care. And that's only the beginning of govt control of our lives from cradle to grave.
"Socialism is just the last "feel good step on the path to Communism and its slavery." - Vladimir Lenin
Medicine (health care control) is the keystone of the arch of socialism. - Vladimir Lenin
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:06:06 AM PDT
by
newfreep
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
To: Sub-Driver
I think it would promote the general welfare if he were a street cleaner rather than a legislator.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:06:55 AM PDT
by
668 - Neighbor of the Beast
( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
To: Sub-Driver
Congress has broad authority to force Americans to purchase other things as well... Well, I have to agree with him, they are forcing me to buy lots of ammo (at least that's what I've told my wife)
To: avacado
Yeppers! Congress can only “promote the general welfare” by exercise of its ligitimate and ENUMERATED powers, as listed in Article I section 8.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:08:05 AM PDT
by
allmendream
(Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
To: Non-Sequitur
Maybe they will try to expand the court soon. You never know.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:08:05 AM PDT
by
GeronL
(http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
To: Sub-Driver
For me, “. . . the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” makes for a better “General Welfare” imperative.
That would mean that the gu-ment is supposed to give everyone a free Glock.
Hubba Hubba!
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:08:30 AM PDT
by
Macoozie
(Go Sarah! Palin/Bolton 2012)
To: Perdogg
The Supreme Court has also ruled that people can be forced to pay into Social Security. But I’m not sure that the government can force people to buy insurance from a private company. Which, I suppose, is one reason why the Democrats are so big on a public option.
To: Sub-Driver
The Declaration of Independence gives the people broad authority to throw off a rouge government.
Think real hard about that one Steny.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:12:45 AM PDT
by
NY.SS-Bar9
(Bread and Circuses)
To: Sub-Driver
That is a crock of chit. They did not have such a thing as health care when the constitution was written.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:13:12 AM PDT
by
Piquaboy
(Military veteran of 22 years in Navy, Air Force, and Army.)
To: Sub-Driver
“He added that Congress has broad authority to force Americans to purchase other things as well, so long as it was trying to promote the general welfare.
O.K. Congress KNOWS national security is an important issue. So Hoyer should support requiring American citizens to purcahse military style rifles so they can help with our national defense.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:13:27 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(God guts and guns made America great. Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
To: GeronL
I think it means we are legally able to buy a B-1 bomber and take out the Congress building, White House and all those Cabinet buildings. Isnt that the real meaning of the General welfare clause?Hmmm. *leafing* No, I think that falls under "insuring domestic Tranquility."
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:13:45 AM PDT
by
668 - Neighbor of the Beast
( If you have kids, you have no right of privacy that the govt can't flick off your shoulder.)
To: All
Assuming the Preamble is binding authority, that sure seems like a stretch of the word "promote." Where is the best primer on the force of law of the Preamble, please?
Oh, and by the way Steny, shall we talk about the general Welfare of the unborn?
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:14:31 AM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
("The President has borrowed more money to spend to less effect than anybody on the planet. " Steyn)
To: Sub-Driver
In fact I don’t think the Preamble is, any way legally binding. Its just a mission statement.
Our government is getting loonier and loonier.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:14:32 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
To: Sub-Driver
Sounds like Steny needs to stop by Borders and pick up a copy of “The US Constitution for Dummies”...
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:15:03 AM PDT
by
PubliusMM
(RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
To: Sub-Driver
“Promote” and “Enforce” means two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS!
Is it the government’s job to “Enforce” the law? or “Promote” it?
By passing laws which deny freedoms, they violate the very thing that they swore to protect.
Citizens are not obligated to obey unconstitutional law.
Citizens ARE obligated by the constitution to rise up and abolish by any means necessary any government which threatens the constitution.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:15:29 AM PDT
by
Safrguns
To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
This is a clear constitutional violation and usurp of unprecedented power and government control, the very thing the founding fathers wrote into the constitution to avoid!
To: Sub-Driver
General Welfare = Mandatory Healthcare?
Uh... No.
Thanks for playing, though.
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posted on
10/21/2009 8:15:54 AM PDT
by
paulycy
(PUBLIC OPTION = PREDATORY PRICING = UNETHICAL COMPETITION.)
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