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To: TopQuark
He replied: "Boat parties? My children HATED boat parties. They were the ones cleaning the boat after the parties." That alone answers your question.

Only if I owned a boat, and gave parties on it.

Family chores are all well and good ... but they are not careers, nor are they training for same.

I'm all for those things .... but when it comes to the point of making a living after leaving home, the present structure of our economy is not particularly well-suited to providing opportunities to teenagers who want to take jobs with more than nominal responsibilities. Many of those low-end type jobs are held by people in places like China....

29 posted on 10/20/2009 9:25:30 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
"Only if I owned a boat, and gave parties on it."

That is an almost COMPLETE misreading of what I said. The point was that you TEACH VALUES to your children and can easily find avenues for PRACTICING those values. The example of Forbes shows that you can do that even when you seemingly don't need anything.

"Family chores are all well and good ... but they are not careers, nor are they training for same."

And who on earth told you that it is your responsibility as a parent (or uncle, or grandparent) to provide, or prepare your child for, a career? What a novel notion.

Your child takes values from you, or absence thereof if they are not provided. Based on these values and primary education, (s)he CHOOSES a career on his/her own. A preparation for that career then takes place outside the family (with rare exceptions). One goes to college, becomes an apprentice or helper at a body shop, etc. Parents play practically no role at this point.

Narcissism of the present-day youth that is discussed in the article is absolutely unrelated to careers or jobs. It stems from the lack of values, their parents' failure to instill traditional Judeo-Christian values.

31 posted on 10/20/2009 9:40:09 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: r9etb
"the present structure of our economy is not particularly well-suited to providing opportunities to teenagers"

C'mon. Let your teenager come to my town. I'll drive him around and find him a job in an hour.

(S)he can't get a job ONLY if (s)he expects to be paid $20/hour. But expectations are a function of information and vales they themselves have, not the structure of the economy.

If YOU explained to your child that the way to the top is not a one-day trip, your child will find his way very easily.

Most people show a bad example nowadays by weekly trips to the mall in search of the latest LCD TV rather than taking a course in a nearest community college and expanding the set of their skills. And then, like you, they blame some kind of economy for their inability to compete. No wonder their children can do little and expect a lot.

33 posted on 10/20/2009 9:46:33 AM PDT by TopQuark
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