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To: trad_anglican

There’s one ambiguity here: if these new structures are being established as havens for Anglicans, but if married Anglicans cannot become Catholic bishops, will the bishops heading them remain Anglican bishops or will Catholic bishops be assigned to lead the transferred congregations?

My bishop is quite married and his orders are rock-solid Apostolic. If our communion could be aligned with Rome in the way described and if my current bishop could be my bishop in the new structure, then I would be very content. Otherwise, this is just another press release adding confusion to an already-distressed situation.


10 posted on 10/20/2009 8:13:38 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (I'm still waiting for Dear Leader to say something that isn't a lie)
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To: BelegStrongbow
There’s one ambiguity here: if these new structures are being established as havens for Anglicans, but if married Anglicans cannot become Catholic bishops, will the bishops heading them remain Anglican bishops or will Catholic bishops be assigned to lead the transferred congregations?

It's my understanding that the personal ordinariates can be lead by a bishop or by a priest working under the local ordinary. I would guess that those married Anglican bishops will be ordained (probably sub conditione) and function as priests in charge of local personal ordinariates. Those un-married Anglican bishops will could potentially be consecrated and function as a bishop. I would expect at least a few would, anyway. I doubt Rome would want to make any more bishops than they have to in this case.

I expect this will be clarified when the Apostolic Constitution is actually released. Are you a member of an Anglican body now?

13 posted on 10/20/2009 8:34:09 AM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: BelegStrongbow
Dear BelegStrongbow,

Married bishops won't be permitted in these new ordinariates.

I know that the married bishops in the TAC have already accepted that they will need to leave the episcopacy of their communion. I imagine many (most? all?) will be ordained (conditionally or not) as Catholic priests, but they definitely will not be able to serve in the office of bishop.

From what I've seen in the news, what will likely happen is that where an Anglican group has a married bishop, after he steps aside, the group will be able to select an unmarried priest from within their community to become the new bishop. If there aren't any unmarried men from which to choose, I read in one of the communications that a married priest from within the affected community will be permitted to serve in the role of heading the ordinariate without being consecrated a bishop.

I don't know how it works in your communion, but for us, this often happens when a bishop dies or resigns abruptly, and there is no one to immediately become the new bishop of the diocese. The diocese will be overseen by someone given a different title from bishop, and not necessarily consecrated a bishop, until such time that an arrangement can be made to install a new bishop in the diocese.

This may not be the ideal arrangement, but it may be a compromise that works for some Anglican communities who want to use this new structure and come into communion with Rome.

I'm speculating here, but perhaps your current bishop could continue to function in the role of the ordinary for your ordinariate (once in communion with Rome) as a Catholic priest.

Another option (again, my speculation) may be, at least for some smaller communities, to come into the Catholic Church under another group's ordinariate, where there are unmarried men who can be consecrated bishops.


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14 posted on 10/20/2009 8:48:55 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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