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WARNING! Goodbye U.S Sovereignty... Hello One World Government!(Obama to Cede US Sovereignty)
YouTube ^ | Oct. 16, 2009 | Lord Monckton

Posted on 10/17/2009 11:19:40 AM PDT by Anita1

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To: LucyT

It appears that if anything is to be done to stop the loss of our freedom God better do it soon.


41 posted on 10/17/2009 12:51:14 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Anita1

BS, he needs 2/3 vote of the senate, 100 people that means 662/3 votes, or actually 64. I don’t think he will have get it. Not only that a US treaty can’t override our constitution and states could just tell him to go to he**. However, that won’t be necessary, he can sign but it won’t be legal until the senate ratifies it, and they won’t.


42 posted on 10/17/2009 12:52:16 PM PDT by calex59
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To: LucyT

THANKS TONS.


43 posted on 10/17/2009 12:52:22 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ProudFossil

[It does not take effect until the Congress says so]

Somehow, I take no comfort in that statement.


44 posted on 10/17/2009 12:56:32 PM PDT by RetSignman (Townhalls ..."We have seen the Patriots and they are us")
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To: Anita1

This is a question I have asked myself and another friend recently - If the things we are seeing are true and come to pass then when is our tipping point and how will we know.

Let’s put it this way say Copenhagen is signed and the Congress approves it. Most people won’t even notice and nothing will change immediatley as these things are all timed. Then the Guberment starts taking extra tax our for supporting other countires and for cap and trade and enviromental concerns - a lot of people will things this is good or ok. The conservative message gets lost in the media like it always seems to and no-one is listening.

Our countires (both the USA and Aus) seem to be the perpetual frog in heating water most people don’t even recognise what’s happening! If we come to or even past this point and no-one stands up but a few of us crazies what then?

It seems to me that sometimes we put a little too much faith in the supposed common sense of our people - if the people had any commone sense we would not be in the mess we find ourselves in.

Any way just thought I would stir the pot and see if any frogs jump out.

Cheers

Mel


45 posted on 10/17/2009 12:56:50 PM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: ProudFossil
Didn't you get the memo? The Constitution doesn't apply anymore.

They are going to illegally pass "health care reform" with less than 60 senate votes and they will pass this.

46 posted on 10/17/2009 12:58:39 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Las Vegas Ron
provided two thirds of the Senators present concur

This is the part that bothers me, especially with the current crop of traitors that we have in power, who knows what they'll pull.

It's even worse... You only need 50% + 1 of the elected Senators present to make a quorum. Meaning you can get 51 of the Democrats together, and you have a quorum. Then 2/3rds of them have to agree - 34.

People don't realize that it only takes 34 Senators to ratify a treaty, if they are members of the party in power. The ONLY thing that could stop it would be a filibuster where you delay action in the Senate on anything. But with a filibuster-proof majority, the Democrats can ratify this treaty with just 34 votes.

There are at least 34 completely-safe seats that can vote for this...

47 posted on 10/17/2009 1:13:19 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible.)
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To: ryan71

“If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense...”

Thomas Jefferson


48 posted on 10/17/2009 1:13:58 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: LucyT

Thank you, Lucy! I appreciate it!


49 posted on 10/17/2009 1:14:34 PM PDT by Anita1 ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.")
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To: Anita1

I believe it is serious. I have read all the documents you mention. Maybe not all but I have been researching Obama’s agenda since last year. Biden NWO speeches also.

Axelrod accidentally said last year we can move onto a New World Order and CNN tried to take it out. Bernanke has been seen at Bilderberg’s. Bernanke who wants power over all corporations and say when they should be shut down. Bernanke who was given a trillion dollars of taxpayers money with no strings to do as he pleased. Now we want to know where it went and he says no. Foreign nations?

How can one administration sign our sovereignty away? I do not believe they can unless they dupe us. They won’t be out front about it.

Obama having the UN meeting here in the US was one of the steps I believe. I think he wants the UN position of power over all nations. First he must sign these types of treaties he will enact once in UN office. UN as it stands now does not have enough power for Obama’s agenda and revenge on America. Oth

The fact India and China are on board now with climate taxation means to me Obama has promised the trillions they said they had to have for cap and tax. Trillions in wealth redistribution to China who we owe massive amounts to? China who has refused to pay the U.S back for money they owe us.

Slow but sure. Obama must be stopped. Rahm, Axelrod, Pelochio, Reid, Dodd,Franks, Waters all must go.


50 posted on 10/17/2009 1:15:25 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: MHGinTN

Thank you so very much! That is great!


51 posted on 10/17/2009 1:16:13 PM PDT by Anita1 ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.")
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To: Anita1

IMHO...the Republicrats will do this as soon as it appears Americans will regain control of their central government....or significant secession commences. They will then call in a multinational strike...


52 posted on 10/17/2009 1:18:44 PM PDT by mo
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To: Anita1
That’s why you would allow a rapist to rape your child - because you do not worry about what he is doing to their future?

That is such a off the wall looney remark it does not even deserve a response.

53 posted on 10/17/2009 1:20:02 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
It's even worse... You only need 50% + 1 of the elected Senators present to make a quorum.

Good point.

I was thinking more along the lines that the dems would just lock the doors and shut the Republicans out, then they'd only need 30 votes.

Either way, we have some serious bumps in the road ahead, hold on!

54 posted on 10/17/2009 1:27:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Obama's Blackberry, who's on the other end?)
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To: Anita1

Over my dead body. No treaty in the World trumps the US Constitution. I swore to uphold and defend it.


55 posted on 10/17/2009 1:27:32 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Anita1

Resist and the devil will flee.


56 posted on 10/17/2009 1:30:20 PM PDT by WhirlwindAttack (Build a man a fire and he's warm for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm the rest of his life ;)
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To: Anita1

I would not count on them or the Pubes. Notice how quiet the Republicans are... they are freaking worthless!


57 posted on 10/17/2009 1:32:33 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: LucyT

Saved both of them. You Tube videos disappear a lot the past year.


58 posted on 10/17/2009 1:41:16 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mo

The Republicans remaining silent on virtually everything tell us all we need to know about them. Sorry I am not picking the lesser of two evils. Not a very good strategy. Look where it has led us.


59 posted on 10/17/2009 1:42:25 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: stockpirate
Take care what you ask for ... at the present depth of our malaise, only a nasty al qaeda slaughter of tens of thousands of Americans, in America, will awaken the sheeple to the relaity of what the demcorat party has done in destroying our economic resilience. And they are not done yet, with cap and tax waiting to indenture us to a global CO2 control mechanism and an obamacare bill to end freedom of medical care, coupled with the planned 'nother stimulus for SEIU, ACORN, green movement, and the unions, we will have civil war in the effort to overcome the domestic enemies enabling the foreign enemies.
60 posted on 10/17/2009 1:43:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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