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To: Danae; All

Lord Monckton took questions after his speech:

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Lord Monckton received a standing ovation and took a series of questions from members of the audience. Among those questions were these relevent to the forthcoming Copenhagen treaty:

Question: The current administration and the Democratic majority in Congress has shown little regard for the will of the people.

They’re trying to pass a serious government agenda, and serious taxation and burdens on future generations. And there seems to be little to stop them. How do you propose we stop Obama from doing this, because I see no way to stop him from signing anything in Copenhagen. I believe that’s his agenda and he’ll do it.

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I don’t minimize the difficulty. But on this subject – I don’t really do politics, because it’s not right. In the end, your politics is for you. The correct procedure is for you to get onto your representatives, both in the US Senate where the bill has yet to go through (you can try and stop that) and in [the House], and get them to demand their right of audience (which they all have) with the president and tell him about this treaty.

There are many very powerful people in this room, wealthy people, influential people. Get onto the media, tell them about this treaty. If they go to www.wattsupwiththat.com, they will find (if they look carefully enough) a copy of that treaty, because I arranged for it to be posted there not so long ago.

Let them read it, and let the press tell the people that their democracy is about to be taken away for no good purpose, at least [with] no scientific basis [in reference to climate change]. Tell the press to say this. Tell the press to say that, even if there is a problem [with climate change], you don’t want your democracy taken away. It really is as simple as that.

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Question: Is it really irrevocable if that treaty is signed? Suppose it’s signed by someone who does not have the authority, as I – I have some, a high degree of skepticism that we do have a valid president there because I -

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I know at least one judge who shares your opinion, sir, yes.

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I don’t believe it until I see it. … Would [Obama’s potential illegitimacy as president] give us a reasonable cause to nullify whatever treaty that he does sign as president?

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I would be very careful not to rely on things like that. Although there is a certain amount of doubt whether or not he was born in Hawaii, my fear is it would be very difficult to prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii and therefore we might not be able to get anywhere with that.

Besides, once he’s signed that treaty, whether or not he signed it validly, once he’s signed it and ratified it – your Senate ratifies it – you’re bound by it.

But I will say one thing; they know, in the White House, that they won’t be able to get the 67 votes in the Senate, the two-thirds majority that your Constitution has stipulated must be achieved in order to ratify a treaty of this kind.

However, what they’ve worked out is this – and they actually let it slip during the election campaign, which is how I know about it. They plan to enact that Copenhagen treaty into legislation by a simple majority of both houses. That they can do. But the virtue of that – and here you have a point – is that is, thank God, reversible.

So I want you to pray tonight, and pray hard for your Senate that they utterly refuse to ratify the [new] Treaty of Copenhagen, because if they refuse to ratify it and [Obama] has to push it through as domestic legislation, you can repeal it.

http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-poised-to-cede-us-sovereignty.html
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“EU’s Lisbon Treaty Means Dictatorship”

by Lord Christopher Monckton

http://www.ukcolumn.org/2008/04/22/the-eu-dictatorship/

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Lisbon Treaty: Europe’s Slow-Moving Coup d’État

http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/10/lisbon-treaty-europes-slow-moving-coup_11.html#links

Excerpt:

Moreover, the Lisbon Treaty obligates EU nations to surrender their sovereignty in many areas to centralized decision-making; and it reduces national veto rights to allow more decisions to be made by majority voting instead of by unanimous consent.

The Lisbon Treaty is the stunning culmination of more than 50 years of European economic and political integration, a process that has resulted in the systematic erosion of democracy and democratic accountability in Europe.

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Coincidence .. that the Lisbon Treaty for the EU was pressed so urgently .. intense pressure being applied in the last couple of months on Ireland, Poland to sign? I believe the Czech Republic is the only holdout.

Yes .. they are

***The Czech Republic’s Klaus Continues to Defy E.U. on Treaty

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1930816,00.html

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The world has truly gone mad. God save us.


25 posted on 10/17/2009 1:18:30 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

I found the treaty


28 posted on 10/17/2009 1:35:41 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: STARWISE
“EU’s Lisbon Treaty Means Dictatorship”

Interesting, this is a global movement. It helps explain the Nobel Peace prize, also why Obama's background has remained hidden. This is a very powerful group.

41 posted on 10/17/2009 4:40:33 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: STARWISE
Thanks for the ping, Star.

All I can say is Wow...just wow. No wonder he doesn't worry about troops or the economy, All he needs to do is sign this and go on date night.....no problem.....WASS! (We Are So Screwed)

49 posted on 10/17/2009 6:09:12 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping! BTTT!!!


60 posted on 10/17/2009 7:29:12 AM PDT by EmilyGeiger (The problem with socialism, is eventually you run out of other people's money. Margaret Thatcher)
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