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1 posted on 10/16/2009 6:02:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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Ping.

Read it and laugh!


2 posted on 10/16/2009 6:02:47 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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Ping


3 posted on 10/16/2009 6:03:08 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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Gee, I thought the question we wanted answered simply is Obama eligible to hold office of the POTUS.

I like the judge. People sure do gum the works up in the court when they start dancing around the court room instead of practicing law.


5 posted on 10/16/2009 7:07:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Doesn’t look very good for the petitioners in my opinion.


6 posted on 10/16/2009 7:17:19 PM PDT by Pinetop
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You know these US Attorneys are full of cow manure...the suits were filed BEFORE Dumbama because president and the plaintiffs were told they had NO STANDING...

They’re full of KRAP!


8 posted on 10/16/2009 7:21:47 PM PDT by RowdyFFC (Nancy Pelosi...please deny her any health care....)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

She seems like a seasoned pro compared to the retards from DOJ


9 posted on 10/16/2009 7:26:34 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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“If the President were forced to go through pretrial and discovery and trial, imagine what would happen to his ability to function as the chief executive officer of the United States of America.

Moreover, what would happen if, for example, some judge in one district were to decide that the President is not qualified or did not meet the qualifications to be President, and another judge faced with the same issue in another district were to decide, yes, he is qualified.

What would we do then? We would have appeals.

In the meantime, the President’s ability, for example, to conduct foreign policy would be severely damaged.

I mean, imagine the prospect of going into negotiations, for example, over nuclear nonproliferation or some other extremely delicate matter with our foreign adversaries and allies looking at the President saying, “Wait a minute, I just heard that a district judge in your decided that you’re not fit to be President. Why should I engage you in negotiations?” Imagine what it would do the ability of the President — and this is any President. We’re not just talking about the current incumbent President. This is an attack on the Presidency itself.

Imagine the damage that would accrue if matters such as these could be litigated in courts. The damage that could accrue to the President’s ability to pass his domestic agenda. The President of the United States is the only officer of the United States who is elected through the vote of all of the people of the United States. He’s not — it’s not like a Congressman or a Senator. He doesn’t have just one constituency. His constituency is the people of the United States.

I submit that the constitutional — the textual commitment in the Constitution to the questions which the plaintiffs in this case seek to raise renders it mandatory, in my view, that these matters be considered nonjusticiable. That the remedies, if any, which these plaintiffs have and other plaintiffs who wish to challenge the fitness and qualifications of a President to serve in office — those are committed to the legislative branch, to the Congress, and not to the courts, and for very good reasons.”

~ Roger West, Assistant United States Attorney


10 posted on 10/16/2009 7:33:50 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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I just finished reading the whole transcript...

Here’s my thoughts:

1. Democrats are running out the clock. Judge Carter is a democrat. He has no intention of hearing this case.

JUDGE CARTER IS GOING TO PUNT!!!!!! He sounded like a scared jackrabbit the way he was pounding counsel for the plaintiffs.

2. Plaintiffs have a solid case, but fail to deal with the defendant’s case. In other words, Defendants are making the case that Carter cannot remove the sitting president. Plaintiffs are arguing that Carter can. That is simply a STUPID STRATEGY!!!

3. The answer to Carter’s question that he had to repeat SO Many Times is... or should have been....

Plaintiffs have standing to KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT ELIGIBILITY!!! We are not asking this court to remove the president... only to force discovery to satisfy plaintiff’s demands and re-assert judicial CHECKS AND BALANCES!!!

4. (and I said this before some time ago in another thread...)

A LOT of people are going to have to die before this case is going to gain any traction.

5. Hey Taitz... here’s some free advice... TAKE SOME PRESSURE OFF THE LOWER COURTS!!! you might get somewhere...
i.e. Just demand ruling on eligibility!... and cede the point that removal would have to be dealt with by congress or the supreme court based on the ruling... which would undoubtedly go up the chain to the supreme court anyway.


22 posted on 10/16/2009 10:42:18 PM PDT by Safrguns
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Causality violation. ^__^


26 posted on 10/17/2009 2:58:19 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace ( There was a hole here. It's gone now)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

So where was this ‘impassioned plea’ of Orly’s that all her followers say caused the judge to not issue a ruling that very day? Looks like Kreep had the last word.


28 posted on 10/17/2009 6:53:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I read that twice now. There is nothing showing incompetence on Taitz’ or Kreep’s part in their arguments. They were as solid, or moreso than the DOJ’s


29 posted on 10/17/2009 11:43:48 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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