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To: bkopto
Barack Obama, by legal definitions going back to the 1600’s is not, was not, and never has been a Natural Born Citizen. It does not matter where Barack Obama was born; he was a dual American/British/Kenyan citizen. He could have been born on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C. itself, and it would not matter. The basic fact of Barack Obama’s parentage remains the same. A Dual Citizen cannot ever be a Natural Born Citizen.

There is absolutely no doubt.

No doubt that it's nonsense. "Dual citizenship" was something our government didn't recognize. Maybe we still don't.

Woodrow Wilson would have been eligible for British citizenship because his mother was born in Scotland. Chester Arthur's Scots-Irish father would have made him eligible for British citizenship. Arguably, Herbert Hoover could have claimed Canadian citizenship, since his mother was born there. But the US didn't recognize such dual citizenship.

From 1855 to 1948 or so, a US law gave US citizenship to foreign women who married American men. So, apparently, Wilson and Hoover could claim that both their parents were US citizens at the time of their birth. But any claims foreign nations would have made that they such men were eligble for citizenship had nothing to do with the US law. We didn't recognize their claims.

16 posted on 10/14/2009 4:59:11 PM PDT by x
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To: x

Wilsons mother was a Naturalized citizen.

The United States recognizes Dual citizenship with other countries, the former British colony and commonwealth of Canada comes to mind. The US State Department does not recommend it because of the problems it may cause, but it definitely is allowed with certain other countries.

See here for more info: http://www.uscitizenship.info/citizenship-lib-dual.htm

Hover’s mother was also Naturalized.

You see, there is a difference between being a Citizen, a Naturalized Citizen and a Natural Born Citizen. You can be born to american Parents overseas and be a citizen. You can be born to Naturalized citizens and be a Natural Born Citizen. You cannot be born to a Foreign National and be a Natural Born citizen, particularly when that parent’s citizenship is also conferred onto the child in question, which with certanty happens with British Citizenship.

There are three types of Citizen, Natural Born citizen (two parents who are citizens and born on us soil), a Citizen (IE a child born to American parents overseas) and Naturalized citizen.

Obama is a citizen of the US and of Britain. He may not have gotten any benefits from his father’s legacy, but if he wanted to he could get it. Easily. Because of that duality, he is not and can’t ever be Natural Born.

Obama’s father never was a citizen of the US. He never applied to be, he was in no way - in any way, an American, and never tried to be. He never tried to be. His father was born British and died Kenyan and British. He passed British citizenship onto his son at birth. The Kenyan citizenship faded from Obama when he turned 21, but until that time.... UNTIL THAT TIME.... Obama could ALSO have claimed Kenyan citizenship.

Is it starting to make more sense now? It is the issue of Duality that denies a person Natural Born Status, and that describes Barack Hussein Obama II to a tee.


33 posted on 10/14/2009 5:46:46 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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