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To: SZonian
She has gone to the stake presidency numerous times about member/bishopric behavior and has been told to support and “sustain” her leadership, that they know better than her how to handle issues. Basically, “shut up and color”. Unfortunately, little, if anything is done to resolve the problems.

Pretty "overt" in the sanctioning, IMO and very typical.

It causes my wife and son much grief. Which in and of itself, is a violation or failure to follow “the counsel” from SLC in regards to fellowshipping members. Even her home teachers have pulled back from visiting.

SLC leaders mouth platitudes and underneath, the stake and ward leaders do the "wink, wink..nudge, nudge" in applying the platitudes.

This, you know, is punishment meant for you by hurting your family.

Of course, you will be told this isn't really "shunning" and according to a couple of mormons here, it's because your wife and son are "disagreeable"...even though they are still loyal to the Corporation.

This is an example of the message sent out by leaders to members from the General Conference in April, 2009. Note the underlying condemnation of "apostates" apparent in Monson's words.

Prophet, Seer and Revelator of the LDS church and President of the Corporation made these comments regarding those who left the mormon church:

"Throughout the journey along the pathway of life, there are casualties. Some depart from the road markers which point toward life eternal, only to discover the detour chosen ultimately leads to a dead end. Indifference, carelessness, selfishness, and sin all take their costly toll in human lives.

Change for the better can come to all. Over the years we have issued appeals to the less active, the offended, the critical, the transgressor—to come back. “Come back and feast at the table of the Lord, and taste again the sweet and satisfying fruits of fellowship with the Saints.”2"

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I especially like the message: "Come back and feast at the table of the Lord, and taste again the sweet and satisfying fruits of fellowship with the Saints.”2"

Pretty plain, isn't it? To the members (nudge, nudge) and "apostates" alike..no invitation is to be offered to you to "fellowship" unless you toe the mormon line.


77 posted on 10/15/2009 9:20:29 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with ACORN's help.)
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To: greyfoxx39
I've thought of this often in the context that it's probably aimed at me through my family. That their situation would get “better” if I returned. But I also believe that the behavior of the bishopric details the complicity in their treatment of my family.

There is no reason why they should treat my family the way they do. They are in every way upstanding mormons with the exception that the patriarch of the family has bowed out.

As mentioned earlier, I can offer conjecture, but not knowing what's in their hearts, I won't.

What's been done has shown me that they preach what they don't practice. That I can't trust them. To assume that “all will be well” if I return is ludicrous. They have shown their stripes.SZ

79 posted on 10/15/2009 9:45:11 AM PDT by SZonian (I'm a Canal Zone brat)
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