[Vendome]

Yes. But shouldn't your fact have a requirement of proof and testing of the proof to ensure it's integrity and means of operation as a fact.

Shouldn't there be a requirement that your affidavit bear scrutiny of impeachability and it being unassailable?

[mlo]

"Yes. But shouldn't your fact have a requirement of proof and testing of the proof to ensure it's integrity and means of operation as a fact."

No, that's got nothing to do with it. I'm trying to establish a philosophical ground rule before going to the next step. I never imagined it would be this difficult.

The sole question at hand, all I'm asking for agreement on, is that a fact exists independent of a person confirming that fact. Whether anyone confirms a true fact, it's still true in and of itself.

2 + 2 does equal 4, even if nobody knew how to add. That's all. It shouldn't be this hard to agree on something so basic.