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God vs. Science Isn't the Issue
online.wsj.com ^ | 10/13/2009 | WILLIAM MCGURN

Posted on 10/13/2009 4:00:42 AM PDT by xcamel

When the poet Matthew Arnold wrote of faith's "melancholy, long, withdrawing roar," the thought was that scientific inquiry had forever undermined claims to certitude. In hindsight we see Arnold was only half right. In place of Genesis we now have scientism—the idea that science alone can speak truth about man and his world.

In contrast to the majority of scientists whose wondrous discoveries seem to inspire humility, today's advocates of scientism can be every bit as dogmatic as the William Jennings Bryans of yesteryear. We saw an example a week ago, when the New York Times reported that many scientists view "outspoken religious commitment as a sign of mild dementia."

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1 posted on 10/13/2009 4:00:42 AM PDT by xcamel
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To: xcamel

Genuine science would be in complete agreement with The Word Of God, from which and from whom all knowledge (science comes from the Latin route for knowledge) comes.


2 posted on 10/13/2009 4:30:08 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion never saved anyone, and never will.)
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To: xcamel
The Vatican relinquished authority over man's body to science centuries ago, but retained authority over man's brain, mind, and soul. AKA the "Divine Forces" of the mind.

Now, there is imaging equipment to measure the "divine Forces" and see where they originate.

Its a very similar situation to when the imaging equipment known as the telescope was invented

3 posted on 10/13/2009 5:10:28 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: xcamel

Religion and science sure work for me.

Thank God.


4 posted on 10/13/2009 5:18:06 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Ben Ficklin

I would put this to Dawkins:
If human thought occurs in a closed system of cause and effect, then the very neuron collisions that provoked the criticisms framed by his brain are mere events. An “event” cannot be true or false. A collision between elementary particles cannot be “true” or “false.” It just happens. Two particles do not collide “truly” or “falsely.” They just collide. Period. Every time Dawkins claims his brain activity leads to conclusions logically superior to those of other (”creationst”) collisions, he is cutting the rug from under himself. Dawkins closed-system argument means that rhetorical logic cannot even exist.


5 posted on 10/13/2009 5:29:16 AM PDT by Phantom4
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To: onedoug

In the beginning God created evolution.


6 posted on 10/13/2009 5:31:13 AM PDT by agondonter
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To: xcamel
The article seems to make a lot of broad generalizations based on a single quote reported by the NYT.

Bad practice, based on limited information from an arguably biased source. IMHO.

7 posted on 10/13/2009 5:39:48 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: agondonter

How then, did reproduction evolve?


8 posted on 10/13/2009 5:44:11 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: RoadTest
Genuine science would be in complete agreement with The Word Of God, from which and from whom all knowledge (science comes from the Latin route for knowledge) comes.

Even if that were true, which is tenuous, the problem is we have no way of knowing when we have reached that point of agreement. Contrary to popular opinion, there is no method to determine what is true. We can can only ever know what is not true through contradiction. That is why all theories in science are tentative.

9 posted on 10/13/2009 6:10:18 AM PDT by csense
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