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This weeks Flu View Map is Devestating ... (Oct 3rd)
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Posted on 10/12/2009 7:11:44 AM PDT by Scythian

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To: skimbell

More people die from the regular flu every year than the pig flu.

It is not the flu itself that kills you, it is the complications that can come from it.

Yes, people die from it. Heck, people die from the cold. all I am saying that this is a media and government driven pandemic if you can call it that.

I for one am not going to get a shot. I also told my daughter that besure to really think this through before she has the kids get the vaccine as well. it is her choice. I had four kids and never once did I ever have them get a flu shot.


41 posted on 10/12/2009 7:34:37 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Canedawg

??????What?


42 posted on 10/12/2009 7:35:33 AM PDT by waxer1 ( "The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests." -Andrew Jackson)
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To: Scythian
try this to calm your fears:

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/clinicians/pdf/adultalgorithm.pdf

43 posted on 10/12/2009 7:36:15 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Scythian

Not a very useful map at all. And the color scheme is weird, not good, human factors-wise.


44 posted on 10/12/2009 7:37:03 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Scythian
You may want to get someone to take a look at your keyboard - your Caps Lock key seem to be stuck.

Another suggestion, take your eyes off the map for a few minutes and look about you. Are there mass absences from your local school? How about where you work? In my area neither are the case.

45 posted on 10/12/2009 7:38:09 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: bvw

I agree... my cartography professor would have given that a poor grade.


46 posted on 10/12/2009 7:39:30 AM PDT by Sloth (For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of the International Olympic Committee.)
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To: Trust but Verify

Our pediatrician told us last week that they are assuming all cases are swine flu at this point. A friend was told in the ER that her son has Influenza Type A but that they have been forbidden by the Feds from testing to see if the flu is the swine flu unless the patient is admitted or dead. So our friend’s son could have the swine flu, but we don’t know. The ER doctor also told the friend that her son should have the flu shot and the swine flu vaccine as soon as he’s better.

Hubby’s coworker got his flu shot a little over a week ago and now has the flu. He claims it is the swine flu, but we know no one is testing for that unless a patient is admitted to the hospital or is dead.

Son’s teammate was admitted to the hospital last week due to the flu. No word on whether it is the swine flu or not. At least 6 players missed practice on Friday due to the flu.


47 posted on 10/12/2009 7:39:55 AM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: CharacterCounts

BUMP!


48 posted on 10/12/2009 7:40:11 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Obama Garden Club: Nothing but plants.)
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To: MsLady

The map is for influenza, I didn’t see any differation between reg flu and swine flu.

Question for the professionals out there: If you had breast cancer, with surgery and chemo coming up, would you get either of the flu shots? Inquiring minds want to know!


49 posted on 10/12/2009 7:40:35 AM PDT by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: brownsfan

The data coming out of CDC on the flu is useless. They don’t assign deaths as flu caused if the person with the flu died but also had an underlying health problem even though the flu pushed them into death and otherwide they would have lived fine.

They don’t test for it anymore. They test for type A and assume you have H1N1 if you test positive for the flu. They are using guesstimates based on postive testing for a different kind of flu virus and symptoms.

Flu is wide spread, but there is no telling with scientific accuracy the death rate nor the infection rate. Like the flu vaccine, the government is winging it. Medicine in the US used to be based on science.


50 posted on 10/12/2009 7:41:19 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Sloth

The worst states look more like the best in color, and the map should be colored to the county or zip code level.


51 posted on 10/12/2009 7:41:27 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Scythian

How can you compare this year with unknown years. If the map was not started in years before until November you are whistleing in the dark.


52 posted on 10/12/2009 7:41:51 AM PDT by amihow
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To: Scythian

It’s racism.


53 posted on 10/12/2009 7:42:02 AM PDT by Dallas59 (No To O)
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To: bboop

Just because you see a map showing a guess of wide spread flu, does not mean you must froth.


54 posted on 10/12/2009 7:42:47 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: MsLady
I thought I just heard that H1N1 virus was actually getting weaker????

I think it is, from a symptomatic standpoint, but not from a contagious standpoint. My daughter (13) is home today with H1N1. She was diagnosed with it on Friday. It's looking good right now that she'll be back in school tomorrow.

Symptoms/experience:

1. We noticed a bit of lethargy, and "staring into space" starting on about Wednesday last week. Thought it was normal teenage stuff.

2. Woke on Friday complaining of a very sore throat and difficulty breathing. Called her off school. Took her to doctor and got H1N1 diagnosis. Breathing problems were due to swollen tonsils (preexisting) that were made worse by the flu.

3. Spent Saturday having her rest as I dealt with the flood of terrified text messages and phone calls she was getting from her friends. Dealt with parents who freaked out about it being "in the school", and kids who thought they surely would never see their friend alive again. Saturday was her worst day health-wise as her coughing and congestion increased markedly. She was miserable Saturday evening, but night-time medicine and a vaporizer helped her get a peaceful night's sleep.

4. Spent Sunday recovering well. By Sunday evening, took her out for a drive to alleviate some stir craziness and look at the fall leaves. She was feeling much better.

5. As a precaution, kept her home from school on Monday to ensure symptoms are completely gone and do not return. She will return to school tomorrow if no fever reoccurs and symptoms do not return.

If any parents are interested in additional first-hand information about H1N1, FReepmail me. Even better would be to call your pediatrician who can best answer questions and explain the outbreak in a more rational, scientific way.
55 posted on 10/12/2009 7:44:24 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: CharacterCounts

There are a lot of absences in the schools in this area. There were a lot of absences in March-May as well. The flu was rampant in the spring and seems to be hitting just as hard at the moment. I notice it more with sports than I do with schools. Students will use any excuse to miss school, but when they skip practices and/or games, then they’re usually pretty sick. There are lots of sick youth athletes. (I think parents are a bit nutty when it comes to sports, and they will let their children miss school but will take their children to practice anyway because they don’t want their child to lose a spot on a team. They show up to practice ill and spread it further. I think some parents think that if they pump their child full of Advil and if the fever goes down, then they are ok to play.)


56 posted on 10/12/2009 7:44:45 AM PDT by petitfour (Are you a Dead Fish American?)
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To: Scythian

Also three weeks ago I came down with a sort of mono-like viral thing that lasted at least ten days and drained me of all energy. RBC and WBC normal, low grade fever.

My local doc says it was going around. I haven’t seen anything about it in the press, yet I hear through work contacts that it’s all over.


57 posted on 10/12/2009 7:44:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: petitfour

Maybe is the Obama-flu. The population is manifesting physical symptoms of a genuine national sickness, givee that the White House is occupied by a de-facto coup-d’etat usurper, and Congress is in total control of the insane.

It is Bedlam.


58 posted on 10/12/2009 7:47:42 AM PDT by bvw
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To: La Lydia
Is it just me or does it seem that those people who are constantly washing their hands, avoiding public places and getting flu shots, etc., are the ones that always seem to be the sickest?

I average getting a cold about once every 10 years. I spend several hours a day outdoors (in all weather), come in contact with many people in public places and never even take aspirin.

Frankly, I think the body needs regular exposure to germs in order to keep the immune system in good shape. People that go out of their way to avoid germs end up getting sick more often because their immune systems aren't maintained in good shape.

For more proof of my theory, consider two public figures who obsessed over avoiding germs - Howard Hughes and Michael Jackson. Both of these people led sad, pathetic lives and were not in good health at all.

Now that's not to say that we shouldn't worry about hygiene at all but obsessing over it is no solution either.

59 posted on 10/12/2009 7:48:35 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 19 days away from outliving Laura Branigan)
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To: Baynative
"There is something...

My take is that it's a heightened awareness of swine flu.

Don't know about other places but here in Texas the data that goes into that map is a result of the number of flu cases seen by a select group of health care types (I guess they're doctors, don't know for sure).

With the increased media focus on swine flu my guess is that anyone with the slightest symptom is going to the doctor whereas in previous years they'd stock up on flu meds and it'd never be reported. Thus it looks like more than normal cases when in fact it's not necessarily that, it's simply more people going to the doctor.

Now perhaps in other states they actually have tracking mechanisms that results in good data, but the numbers from Texas are about as useless as a Nobel prize.

60 posted on 10/12/2009 7:48:35 AM PDT by Proud_texan (Scare people enough and they'll do anything.)
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