Posted on 10/10/2009 9:04:41 PM PDT by neverdem
“The ecosphere is already saturated with water”
So, you are walking around in a dense fog right now? As is everyone else on earth?
Average Global Relative humidity at the surface is 78%. At higher altitudes it drops, being 37% at 30,000’.
Left out the sarc tag. The shale (actually, *any*) NG rigs I have seen are quite benign, usually a small cluster of gear in the middle of “nowhere” once in operation. Enviros, however, deeply fear shale exploration once it includes liquid hydrocarbon product because they fear massive ugly pits with accompanying steam generating gear and a dig out/break up processing operation that creates tremendous amounts of waste oil and potential groundwater pollution. And those that I have seen are indeed pretty ugly.
It was on the front page of the NY edition, not the national. Go figure. It was otherwise buried in the energy/environment section, IIRC.
Shale is a sedimentary rock rich in organic material that is found in many parts of the world. It was of little use as a source of gas until about a decade ago, when American companies developed new techniques to fracture the rock and...Thanks neverdem.
I have worked in and have been oil and gas exploration (drilling) my whole life and I have no idea what you are trying to describe.
Massive ugly pits? accompanying steam generating gear and a dig out/break up processing operation that creates tremendous amounts of waste oil and potential groundwater pollution? The “pits” are drilling fluid and the steam (water vapor) seen is from subsurface heat not some monster machinery spewing waste oil (beleive me damn little oil is let go at $70 a bbl).
http://www.oilwatchdog.org/images/blog/5448270/estoniashale.pnp.png
http://redgreenandblue.org/files/2008/11/oil-shale-mining.jpg
http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/green/2008/10/06/Bauert9633_PKivioliresized.JPG
http://www.econbrowser.com/archives/2005/09/Stuart_pit.jpg
You’re misreading my point. I am stating what the enviros fear, not what I project. I’m in favor of developing these resources. Once these fields are in operation, they can be cleaned up and worked pretty well. I understand that in the 80’s many of these projects were abandoned when the tax benefits were revoked. Unfortunately, some of those abandoned sites are the squeaky wheel that gets their attention.
Natural gas (methane) is CH4 - the hydrogen bonds are where the energy is. Other hydrocarbons have more carbon for less hydrogen, proportionately.
Mining of oil shales
and extracting natural gas from fractured shale
are two completely different things.
Correct.
However, since liquid water is widely exposed to the atmosphere, the system is at equilibrium. Liquid water evaporates and water vapor condenses. The addition of a miniscule amount of water vapor will not change these conditions.
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