[Toddsterpatriot]

For instance, the whole fake green movement is based on a "study" done by USC that "proved" greenhouse gases were because of r-12.

You're not confusing CFCs destroying the ozone layer with the recent green house gas fiasco, are you?

The "study" was paid for by Dupont whose patent on r-12 was about to run out.

You have a copy of that patent? Or are you making stuff up?

[norraad]

No I not makin' anything up.

I lived it.

I was family to some of the research people.

Family shares things, you know.

[Old Professer]

The patents were running out and China was set to be the major producer; R-12 was the best gas for the type of refrigeration we commonly use as its safety level is unequaled.

Dupont was a happy camper but the madness reigned and now the hole comes and goes, just as it has all along.

Its chief replacement, HFC-134 was just made a GHG by Jackson, Browner et al this year and here we go again.