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To: SandRat
I'm ready to give this a chance.

I would like it if the Navy put women on just one or two subs as a "shake down" to double check the thesis that it's workable.

Just this Navy Dad's opinion.

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24 posted on 10/07/2009 5:36:11 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

Only for an all female crew.


32 posted on 10/07/2009 5:38:01 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Seaplaner

>>I would like it if the Navy put women on just one or two subs as a “shake down” to double check the thesis that it’s workable.

If the Pentagon would give it an honest shakedown, I’d agree. Unfortunately, political correctness mandates that any problems with women on submarines will be the fault of the men.

I served on subs for 8 years. It’s a stressful environment 24/7 and requires a certain amount of informality to keep people sane. Adding women and all the issues that involves would be disastrous.

Having a woman standing watch in Manuevering would make about 80% of the conversations we had off-limits. I’d hate to think what a couple months underwater would be like when you can’t talk about anything but the weather.


55 posted on 10/07/2009 6:05:01 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Question O-thority!)
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To: Seaplaner
I'm ready to give this a chance.
I would like it if the Navy put women on just one or two subs as a "shake down" to double check the thesis that it's workable.
Just this Navy Dad's opinion.

Wanna get a NAVY WIFE"S opinion.?????

121 posted on 10/07/2009 8:46:12 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Seaplaner
Thanks to PC thinking this can't be discussed openly in the military anymore but you can't test ideas like this because those who implement them with and without brains know it would end up a failure, the only question is how bad.

Joined the USAF just before they opened several maintenance career fields to women for the first time. Out of the first 14 women we were assigned who did the same job as me, nine were pencil whipped on the lifting requirement and couldn't do it. 4 more didn't make it due to other reasons. After six months only one out of the group was left who could do the job. I never saw better numbers in subsequent years.

Had a friend who told me that the Air Force initially tracked how well the women were doing, but stopped when they saw how bad it was going. If it was an experiment it would have been marked as a complete and utter failure.

131 posted on 10/08/2009 3:48:17 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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