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To: trumandogz
We need to get rid of Medicare all together.

We need to get rid of the waste and fraud in Medicare - maybe it should be turned over to a private company.

But 'get rid of'? What could it be replaced with? What do the people who pre-paid for the insurance for decades then use for insurance?

What is needed, along with cleaning up the waste and fraud is to stop giving Medicaid money/coverage to the millions of people who paid little or none into it but get it because they're a drug addict or alcoholic or 'bi-polar' etc.

For example, there's a couple down the street 0 both in their 30's, that get medicaid - recovering druggie/alcoholic and bi-polar...they get all medical, drugs and counseling paid in full - no co-pay, no deductible - and about $200 each for food stamps - and a monthly disability check out of our social security funds...that we retired folk pre-paid into from the time we were 15.

That all comes out or medicare money that they didn't contribute to.

THEY should be taken off medicaid and if the gov't wants to molly coddle them, find other funding.

Don't rob medicare.

And again, if you stop medicare, what do the people who pre-paid for decades and continue to pay about $100 a month for it (taken out of their social security) do for insurance. (that's another thing the druggies et al don't pay - the $100 a month.

5 posted on 10/05/2009 10:45:27 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

That’s the truly vile thing about programs like this (Medicare, Social Security, and whatever government healthcare takeover they pass):

You get a bunch of people dependent on it as they’re heavily subsidized by future payers. Then when it goes broke you have no way to end it because everyone cause say they’re owed.

The only way to unwind them is to declare a cutoff age, have people quit paying into from that point forward, and continue to pay out benefits to everyone above the cutoff age until it’s gradually eliminated.

It turns a large, endless, and ever-increasing money pit into a very large but finite red number.


6 posted on 10/05/2009 11:06:14 PM PDT by BobbyT
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To: maine-iac7
But 'get rid of'? What could it be replaced with? What do the people who pre-paid for the insurance for decades then use for insurance?

Yes, get rid of Socialized Medicine, abolish Medicare and Medicaid.

As for those people who are now on Medicare, the feds should refund the money each person paid into Medicare, minus the amount of money that has been paid out for their care by Medicare.

And then those people who were on Medicare can go into the private market place and purchase private insurance.

7 posted on 10/05/2009 11:18:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: maine-iac7
Medicare and Social Security need to be phased out quickly, if at all possible. They are a cancer. Folks may have "prepaid" but what they prepaid for was a Madoff level Ponzi scheme. Crying that one has been "taken" doesn't help much just becasue one was "taken" by politicians. Gummint should do ONLY what ONLY gummint CAN do. The rest should be leftup to the folks.

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12 posted on 10/06/2009 3:33:59 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" or "come get some")
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