Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Entitlements, Social Problems and the Family
JEFFHEAD.COM ^ | Oct 3, 2009 | Rep. Steven Thayn

Posted on 10/03/2009 9:39:57 AM PDT by Jeff Head

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last
Steve is actively incorporating these vies into law here in Idaho, particularly in education.

These are the types of candidates, and the types of views held by those candidates that we need to place in office at the local, state, and national level all over this country.

We are building such a list of candidates at:

The Independent American Movement for Constitutional Restoration

Here is the list we have developed in the last two weeks. Help us find and promote more.

The following is a list of candidates who have sworn or affirmed that they will support the Constitutional Principles established by the Independent American Movement for Constitutional Restoration and whom we have sworn or affirmed in turn to support (more candidate names will be added as they take this oath or affirmation):

-------------------- CANDIDATE LIST --------------------

ID : Governor - Rex Rammell (GOP)

ID : State Rep, 11th Dist. - Steven Thayn (GOP)

ID : Boise City Council - Lucas Baumbach (GOP) - Nov 2009 Election

ID : Boise City Council - Daniel L. Dunham (GOP) - Nov 2009 Election

KY: US Senate - Bill Johnson (GOP)

LA : Shreveport, Dist G City Council - Parker Ward (AIP & GOP)

MA : Governor - Paul Waple (AIP)

NC : 12th District, US House of Representatives - Doc Gillenwater  (GOP)

TN : 5th District, US House of Representatives - Tom Kovach  (AIP)

TX : 30th District, US House of Representatives - Pastor Stephen E. Broden (GOP)

TX : 17th District, US House of Representatives - Timothy Delasandro (GOP)

WA : 3rd District, US House of Representatives - David Hedrick (GOP)

-------------------------------------------------------------------


1 posted on 10/03/2009 9:39:58 AM PDT by Jeff Head
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Neil E. Wright; dcwusmc; Travis McGee; Noumenon; meadsjn; A Navy Vet

FYI...the types of fundamental principle being put forth by the candidates we are finding.


2 posted on 10/03/2009 9:41:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #3 Removed by Moderator

To: Noumenon; joanie-f; Dukie; Squantos; JohnHuang2; RobFromGa; k.trujillo; Travis McGee; ...

PING for fundamental principle that can and must be enacted into law...and we’re doing it here in Idaho. Sorry for any double pings.


4 posted on 10/03/2009 9:42:30 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

Saved for later.


5 posted on 10/03/2009 9:53:35 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

Thanks.

Bookmarking for a closer read later.


6 posted on 10/03/2009 9:58:33 AM PDT by Palladin (ACORN is a criminal enterprise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

thanks - printing later to pass onto a whole group of charitable folk.


7 posted on 10/03/2009 10:04:28 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

He’s obviously a racist. /s


8 posted on 10/03/2009 10:15:34 AM PDT by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Canedawg; Palladin; JudyinCanada
Thank you all, Please let me know what you think when you read the article...and please ping others to the info.

Judy, I am trying to get this published on Candada Free Press too.

9 posted on 10/03/2009 10:32:33 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
It is a thesis about how current government entitlement programs do not encourage independent living or the formation of stable families, but instead increase social problems, add to our tax burden, and decrease our standard of living.

Government schooling was our nation's first social entitlement.

Government schooling from its very beginning in the mid 1800s to the early 1900s conditioned children to be comfortable with socialism. **ALL** government schools have, and do now, teach children to be comfortable with accepting money from neighbor ( through government threat) to pay for a service their parents want for free!

One to three generations of children accepting socialism in their socialistic government schools prepared the way for the income tax, Franklin D. Roosevelt, and the New Deal. It's been a downhill slide into a socialist fascism since then.

Government schools did not make Obama and his Marxist minions possible. They made him INEVITABLE!

10 posted on 10/03/2009 10:43:33 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wintertime
Exactly...and the author focuses on this critical issue:

The only way to decrease the number of social problems is build family capacity and increase the number of stable homes.

This process must begin with the reform of public education. It is the logical place to begin because:

- It was the first entitlement
- Education is a family responsibility (this doesn’t mean everyone has to home school

11 posted on 10/03/2009 11:04:27 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
>6: Reform Public Education: The beginning

While I agree with the author that his proposals would be an improvement. They are NOT, NOT, NOT, the solution! But...his suggestions could be the beginning of a solution if the goal is complete privatization of education.

GOVERNMENT EDUCATION CAN NOT BE REFORMED!!!

ALL GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS TEACH CHILDREN TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE GOVERNMENT TAKING MONEY FROM THEIR NEIGHBOR TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THEIR PARENTS WANT FOR FREE!!!

**ALL** GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS ARE SOCIALIST!!!

SOCIALISM CAN **NOT** BE REFORMED!!!

Solution: We must replace all government schools with universally available private schools that are paid for by the parents or through charity.

The author's proposals would be an improvement and along with voucher, tax credits, and charters schools could lay the foundation for gradually moving to a fully private system, we must not rest until **all** government schools are abolished.

Finally...If conservatives would fund private education foundations as generously as they donate to colleges and universities, conservatives could get a LOT of kids out of the government schools right NOW!

Private conservative educational foundations could award grants to individual teachers who would open tuition-free one room schools, mini-schools, and homeschool co-ops. The foundations would certify the teachers, approve the curriculum, and test the students. The foundations would also break the back of the government monopoly on team sports by sponsoring sports leagues.

And..Yes, I am shouting. Until conservatives understand that it is the intrinsic socialistic nature of government schools that is the problem we will not reach a solution!

12 posted on 10/03/2009 11:09:11 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wintertime
I know Steven Thayn personally...we are not going to change this overnight. His proposl is a start to get the family moved to the center piece in education, and to give them the wherewithall to get the best education for their children. Private schooling and the vouchers therefor follow or occur in conjunction with that.

As more state's recognize the need for this, to empower family and use that as the centerpiece for providing social services, including education, then the other movement will follow.

Rep. Thayn understands this and is presenting here in Idaho the rational to begin deconstructing the federal and state fgovernment beheamouths that have grown up around "public " education...and he is having success.

13 posted on 10/03/2009 11:14:53 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 10/03/2009 11:40:01 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head
While I agree his proposals are an improvement, and they can be a step toward a full solution ( complete privatization).

However....

We must start with the language that we use regarding government schooling. One of the first words that must be dropped is “reform”. Why? Government schools can NOT be reformed because socialism can be reformed.

Government schools are like a great, big, dead, socialist, beached whale. It is impossible to do CPR on a dead socialist beached whale. A dead whale can NOT be “reformed”! It needs to be completely buried.

How do we do that? Answer: We hack off little chunks of the rotting carcass at a time. We must do all the following simultaneously:

1) Wherever there are vouchers, tax credits, charters, and magnet schools, long waiting lists form. These parents quickly organize themselves in bleating crying political action groups. Good! The legislators will not be deaf to their cries. These small schools will provide the infrastructure needed for the eventual complete privatization.

2) We must work to starve government education of money. We can do this through property tax initiatives.

3) Teachers, themselves, have in some rare instances voted to make their schools into Green Dot charter schools. This needs to be encouraged.

4) I agree with Steven Thayn that any child of any age should be allowed to take the GED. If he passes, he should be allowed to attend college with all the rights to scholarships and loans that older students enjoy. Every year this is proposed in my state, and every year the teachers unions kill the bill.

5) I also agree with Thayne that children should be allowed to take tests that would prove their competency and allowed to progress at their own speed.

6) Courses for all grades should be posted on-line so that any child of any age could progress in their own home, at any time, at their own speed.

5) Conservatives should immediately stop giving any money to liberal/Marxist colleges and universities, and set up private education foundations ( as described in the above post). If conservatives would do this, we could immediately begin to get kids out of the government schools.

6) Finally...With the infrastructure in place, parents should be expected to gradually take on the full financial responsibility of educating their own children with charity paying for the poor.

15 posted on 10/03/2009 11:46:14 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
The growth of entitlements harms society for this simple reason -- government grows at the expense of the family unit.



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
(View past Libertarian pings here)
16 posted on 10/03/2009 11:46:17 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: traviskicks

BUMP!

You’ll like this one.


17 posted on 10/03/2009 11:47:17 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Jeff Head

This should read:

because socialism can NOT NOT NOT be reformed.


18 posted on 10/03/2009 11:48:02 AM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: wintertime

See my post 13.


19 posted on 10/03/2009 11:48:06 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: wintertime

Go to the link and contact Thayn and establish a dialog with him. He’s open to ideas and some of your are very good ones.


20 posted on 10/03/2009 11:49:14 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-47 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson