Finance Committee Democrat Won’t Read Text of Health Bill (text of bill will not be published)

CNS News ^ | 10/02/09 | Nicholas Ballasy

[1COUNTER-MORTER-68]

KILL THE BILL!!!

[C210N]

Don’t see any problem here... I mean, the public nor the legislatures got to read any “legislation” in the old Soviet Union. Nobody gets to read any law in Cuba or North Korea. So, why here?

[Repeal The 17th]

The rat is right in one of respect.
If he or I were to actually read it, it would not matter,
because neither of us would understand what it means.
But the difference in him and me is that
I would have enough integrity to NOT vote for a bill that was
written in such a way that I couldn’t figure out what it meant.
He, on the other hand, will vote for the bill even though he stands
right there and admits that he does not know what it means.

[zeugma]

Now, every time a bill or ammendment is proposed, the clerk starts to read and someone calls out, "Mr President, I ask that the reading be suspended", to which the response is, "Pursuant to blah blah blah .. the reading is suspended">

OK ... when the vote comes up, some patriot needs only protest the suspension of the reading and demand the full reading.

You are correct in your understanding. I'll take it one step further though. To suspend the reading of bills requires unanymous consent. What that means, in essense, is that both the republicans and democrats are in on this scam. Any representative can force a full read according to the rules that have been in place for decades. Ever wonder why they never do? 

We are being scammed by thre demopublican party and are being sold into slavery by their malfeasance.

[zeugma]

And yet, you are reading it and painstakingly deciphering their BS legalese which is incomprehensible at first/second/third glance.
You’re doing it...keep going!
Stop reading their BS whenever you begin to sense utter confusion or disorientation but save your notes. Post those notes here on FR.
You’re a brave one and I appreciate your efforts. :)

I'll second that. They write these bills in the manner they do to obfuscate meaning. I've taken deep dives into legislation before and you'd be amazed at how powerful a single line of text saying something like this...

14 (1) in subsection (b)(4)—
15 (A) in subparagraph (B), by striking the first comma.

You can change the entire meaning of a sentance by striking, or adding a single comma. This kind of skulduggery is done all the time. 

[tarpit]

can you shed some light on this?

Page 147
Current Law
Section 188 of MIPPA established the Medicare Improvement Fund (MIF)available to the Secretary to make improvements under the original fee-for-service program under Parts A and B for Medicare beneficiaries. Under current law, $22.29 billion is available for services furnished during FY2014.

Chairman’s Mark
The Chairman’s Mark would eliminate the funding in the MIF.

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ps funny obama Quote: “Not a dollar of the Medicare trust fund will be used to pay for this plan.”

[BookmanTheJanitor]

why are they always complaining about Republicans not coming up with a bill...they don’t even want to read their own.

[RasterMaster]

No reason for anyone to read it...just read the U.S. Constitution instead then ask "is this bill something we are constitionally allowed to do?" When you get the answer, you know how to vote...

[Theo]

This really is not a “humor” piece? Seriously?

What has happened to our country? A bunch of idiots are in charge.

[mojitojoe]

http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/read-draft-senate-finance-committees-health-care-reform-bill/

[sscoots969]

And I won’t be reading my w-2 nor writing any checks to pay taxes. That is what needs to be done across the land - put our money (lack there of) where are hearts are!!!

[EternalVigilance]

There's only one word to describe this:

Tyranny.

[RC one]

Here’s my plain english version of the bill: The following bill and all ammendments contained herein, should they be adopted, will bankrupt this country and ruin the healthcare system of America while simultaneously lining the pockets of insurance company executives and the politicans they employ. What’s more, this bill will be heralded as some kind of a personal Obama triumph even though it is obviously a f$%&ing POS bill that should be killed immediately for all our sakes God help us all.

[Arizona Carolyn]

Isn’t this the Bo Biden place holder?

[Arizona Carolyn]

They plan to tax pacemakers, hearing aids, porcelain teeth and more....... someone better wake up a lot of seniors before it’s too late.

[knarf]

I think Joe Wilson should get this nudge.

[SunkenCiv]

Sen. Thomas Carper (D.-Del.), a member of the Senate Finance Committee, told CNSNews.com that he does not "expect" to read the actual legislative language of the committee's health care bill because it is "confusing" and that anyone who claims they are going to read it and understand it is fooling people. "I don't expect to actually read the legislative language because reading the legislative language is among the more confusing things I've ever read in my life," Carper told CNSNews.com.

And every Democrat who agrees with his assessment will henceforth be referred to as "Carperheads". ;')

[khnyny]

Alex, I’ll take “skulduggery” for $300 please...

[hyperconservative]

Devious critters, aren’t they?

[swheats]

Carper believes he’s the smartest of the group and we’re all too stupid to understand.