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To: angkor; river rat; Squantos; CodeToad
The conclusion: "A well-meaning social experiment masquerading as a counterinsurgency — oblivious to the unintended downsides and bent on delegating our counterterrorism work to the Afghans a couple of years hence — is not a good reason to have any troops in Afghanistan, much less to send in 40,000 more. The nice, friendly war — in which we pretend that we love the wonderful native people, have a quarrel solely with their wayward fringe, fight only until our enemies scatter but not until they are defeated, and define success (rather than victory) by how much we improve life for the indigenous population — is a delusion. If we’re not up for the real thing, we should leave Afghanistan now. Those who worry that we would give al-Qaeda a huge propaganda victory should consider that we’re already giving them one by hamstringing our warriors and exhibiting a failure of will."

This dreamy-eyed social experiment is doomed, and we will just be sacrificing troops for NOTHING.

Great article, especially the third page.

19 posted on 10/02/2009 5:10:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Thousands of years of tribal warfare and religious persecutions are not going to be changed by us or anyone else. They are savages, incapable of understanding civility. Why are we even trying to convert them to our ways of thinking? Bring the troops home. That is not our country andit has no further significance to us. If the muzzies use it to attack us via training camps, HQ, whatever, then we should keep a watchful eye and destroy them then. To change that country for the better would take untold dollars and decades of education, but even then the outcome is doubtfu. God love them, but they simply are not interested in becoming us.


26 posted on 10/02/2009 6:32:56 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Travis McGee

>>> This dreamy-eyed social experiment is doomed, and we will just be sacrificing troops for NOTHING. <<<<

Indeed. One wonders what McChrystal was thinking with this 60 page Unclassified “leaked” press release.

It borders on being an outrageous but pathetic joke.

And Michael Yon has also recently been on the “100 years war” (aka “100 years of nation building”) bandwagon.

Rather than coddling the Afghans, we should be salting their opium fields (which finance the terrorists) and killing the Taliban/aQ both at and across the Pakistan border.


34 posted on 10/02/2009 8:04:46 AM PDT by angkor (The U.S. Congress is at war with America.)
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