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To: CyberAnt
The "Patriot Act" cuts many ways. Quite frankly, the more onerous provisions should have yearly sunset clauses the have to be renewed.

And while I think Franken is a lamebrain, Its about time someone pulled out the constitution and ask a government official to show where in the constitution a particular action is provided.

I do not trust government to limit its "spying" to just oversees calls. And while we may agree that a short term push against the fourth amendment is necessary in time of war, that short term need to be prevented from being long term.

And who is to say that a simple conversation about a wedding with relatives overseas is what it is, or something more dark. Because its left to a computer, its okay?

The steps we take to protect ourselves as a nation can also be used to protect the government against its citizens. This is the danger and why every congress critter needs a copy of the constitution in their breast pocket to refer to and ask themselves if the legislation before them follows both the intent and purpose of the document, which is to protect and advance liberty of the individual at the expense of the state.

I am of the opinion that ALL the provisions of the Patriot Act need to be revisited and discussed in an open and national nature. What has worked should have sunset clauses and what is onerous, tossed, Including some of the banking provisions that has a teller asking you where you got that 2500 bucks you are depositing... The average citizen is assumed a criminal until he or she proves otherwise...

5 posted on 10/01/2009 11:10:57 PM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: abigkahuna

Well .. that certainly is logical .. lets just sunset all the clauses that have kept us safe .. very logical.

What more is there to say! I don’t argue with idiots.


7 posted on 10/01/2009 11:19:45 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: abigkahuna; bamahead; Bokababe; djsherin; rabscuttle385

You make excellent sense. Too bad you’re gonna take a lot of flack from the “security at any cost” crowd...

The rest of you: PING!


8 posted on 10/01/2009 11:38:09 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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