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Makers of Ethanol Ponder Alternative (biobutanol)
WSJ ^ | 10/01/09 | RUSSELL GOLD

Posted on 09/30/2009 10:01:23 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Makers of Ethanol Ponder Alternative

By RUSSELL GOLD

Some ethanol makers, battered by unpredictable profit margins and criticism that production of the corn-based fuel drives up food prices, are being presented with a way out: making biobutanol.

Biofuels entrepreneurs are hoping to snap up idled and financially distressed ethanol plants and convert them to make biobutanol, another plant-based fuel that can be blended into gasoline or used to make plastic products such as water bottles.

Denver-based Gevo Inc., a privately held biofuels start-up, is expected to say Wednesday that it is lining up financing to acquire and retrofit as many as five ethanol plants to produce biobutanol. The company hopes to purchase or partner with plants with capacity to make at least 200 million gallons a year. At going rates for ethanol plants, the total cost of the plants could exceed $125 million, according to industry experts.

Gevo, backed by renewable-energy investors such as Khosla Ventures and the French global energy giant Total SA, says it has successfully retrofitted its first plant, a demonstration project in Missouri, to show it can quickly and cost-effectively convert existing ethanol plants.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biobutanol; energy; ethanol
Ever-ending ethanol trouble.
1 posted on 09/30/2009 10:01:25 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 09/30/2009 10:01:53 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So how do you trade on this info?????


3 posted on 09/30/2009 10:10:32 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Had to dig to see, but this stuff can be made from inedible crops.


4 posted on 09/30/2009 10:11:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Democrat party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Penny stock scams.

yitbos

5 posted on 09/30/2009 10:17:27 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ethanol (alcohol) attracts water — its an engine buster if you do not use protecting chemicals to neutralize the effect. Many engine makers will not allow of 10% ethanol fuel to be used in their engines (Mercury Marine for one) or you will void your warranty.


6 posted on 09/30/2009 10:20:30 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
Who knows? Maybe that is another hidden agenda. Sabotage all cars, so that people have to commute in bikes or mass transit. Their dream coming true. /sarc
7 posted on 09/30/2009 10:22:40 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: bruinbirdman

BP in conjunction with Mazda racing used this stuff in a race car last weekend for a 10 hour endurance race. Although the race was shortened because of rain in the Atlanta area, the car finished first in its class in the P2 division. The car ran as unclassified because it was using an unapproved fuel, experimental only.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not a big supporter of this stuff but I think the engineers could get a car to run on dog slobber if they could light it on fire. BP has positioned itself to profit from this global warming crap for years and will take advantage of any publicity they could get.

A friend of mine owns a car that competes in that class so I did watch it on TV for awhile. Unfortunately, the water gremlins got into their electrics and caused all kinds of havoc.


8 posted on 09/30/2009 10:30:28 PM PDT by biff
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To: biff
... I think the engineers could get a car to run on dog slobber if they could light it on fire ...

Literally LOL !!!

9 posted on 09/30/2009 10:34:10 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Biobutanol fixes all the gripes people have here on FR about ethanol. It is for real. It burns more like gasoline with more btu's than ethanol. You make it from non edible materials.

It is an alternative, but still can't equal the quantity of petroleum gasoline.

As far as an investment, the ethanol plants will eventually be converted and bought by larger conglomerates. I think Conoco has just bought some. What are the odds? Just sayin.

10 posted on 09/30/2009 10:37:12 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Butanol has about 95% the energy density of gasoline per volume, unlike ethanol, which is around 67%, so it should have an advantage in that regard over ethanol.


11 posted on 09/30/2009 10:40:05 PM PDT by Post Toasties (Conservatives allow the guilty to be executed but Lefties insist that the innocent be executed.)
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To: biff
Invest in BP, ok or Total.

yitbos

12 posted on 09/30/2009 10:48:30 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If this brings the ethanol debacle to a close using a market-based solution, it’s a win for everyone, including taxpayers.


13 posted on 09/30/2009 10:57:20 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
“Had to dig to see, but this stuff can be made from inedible crops.”

Can't this be made from the parts left over after various crops are harvested? I recall something back in the late eighties about using the husks and stalks after corn had been harvested to make fuel that wasn't ethanol but can't recall what it was.

Regards

14 posted on 09/30/2009 10:59:06 PM PDT by Rashputin (blif)
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To: Post Toasties
How much is the subsidy for production?

Which Democrat gets the biggest donation from the butanol industry? ..
Early skeptic

15 posted on 10/01/2009 5:46:35 AM PDT by pointsal
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