Posted on 09/29/2009 6:00:16 AM PDT by Kaslin
This reminds me of something I have desired to see for a long time. When crimes are reported in the news, I would like to see as part of the reporting - to the best that can be ascertained from investigative reporting through family, friends, neighbors, coworkers, etc - if the suspect is known to be a church going Christian or not.
That's all.
Because it seems to me on the few occasions that a known church goer does commit a serious crime - THAT makes the news - but never the other way around.
Then after a time let's have this debate about religion and morality.
And to the Jewish FReepers among us...Shana tova to you and yours.
Actually to all...;)
I think the ones that need it, already have it.
“If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?”
Seriously?
Yeah, why do we? We have faults, God doesn’t. Or does being made in His image just mean our bodies look like Him?
It probably rained! And if it didn't, as I suspect was the case, I would wonder what the levels do from Thursday to Saturday, especially around Jerusalem.
ML/NJ
Because we had free will like God.
Unlike Him we did not use it wisely.
the other part of that statement is we are CREATED in His IMAGE
Only God is uncreated, we are an image of Him. No one mistakes the painting for the subject that was painted.
Last I heard, the percentage of prisoners who identified as none, atheist or unknown (refused to answer) on the religion question was about 20%.
Of “none” that can include those who don’t identify with a specific religion or Christian denomination, IOW, non-denominational Christian.
Basically, there appears to be no correlation between religious belief and criminal behavior. There is a correlation between adhering to religious beliefs and lower criminal behavior*, but then that’s the same as an atheist who adheres to the moral standards of our society, which in large part consists of following the law.
* Jihadi Muslims excluded, of course.
I wonder what the result would be of a poll asking prisoners if they are innocent or guilty of the crime they were convicted of.
Asking prisoners if they are religious is much the same. The desire is to say they are religious because ultimately they are looking to get back out.
I think that answer would better have been addressed to the other fellow.
Does history warrant the conclusion that religion is necessary to morality — that a natural ethic is too weak to withstand the savagery that lurks under civilization and emerges in our dreams, crimes, and wars? ... There is no significant example in history, before our time, of a society successfully maintaining moral life without the aid of religion.
Will and Ariel Durant
Sorry. It appeared to me you were asking an honest question, and the other fellow was chiming in and agreeing. I’m sorry if I misinterpreted.
“Yeah, why do we? We have faults, God doesn’t. Or does being made in His image just mean our bodies look like Him?”
We have free will - which means the ability to turn away from God and do bad things. Our relationship with God was damaged through original sin, and, of course, Satan roams the world seeking the ruin of souls.
The world is a machine, a device, through which people can become what God wants us to be. Unless people have the ability to choose Evil, unless bad things can happen to good people for no discernable reason, the machine doesn’t function.
I guess I was expecting people to hear my tone of voice and read my facial expression.
Sorry. I’m a bit tone deaf this AM.
Forgot to turn the Freeper radar on!
Have a good day.
I guess then, If God cannot choose evil, we must not be made in His image.
He doesn't drink coffee either. Strike two.
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
???
Do you seriously wish to discuss the nature of the “image of God” on FR?
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