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To: JenB
So you believe neither presidential candidate was a natural born citizen?

In the case of Barack H. Obama, the case is clear cut. His father was not a US citizen and not even a green card holder. He was merely in the United States on a student visa. Barack Obama was born a citizen of Kenya by his own admission, and even if he were also a US citizen by birth, he was NOT a Natural Born Citizen as required by the Constitution to be eligible to the Presidency. I consider his presidency to be invalid and void.

In the case of John McCain, the case could be made for Natural Born Citizenship if he had been born in the Panama Canal Zone, which was US soverign territory. However, that is not the case. He was born in the Republic of Panama, and although he is most certainly a US citizen by birth as a result of the operation of statute, he is also not a Natural Born Citizen as that term is properly understood under the Constitution, even if that seems manifestly unfair and unjust.

49 posted on 09/29/2009 7:38:01 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine

Thanking you for the blinding clarity! Keyword: blinding....which has occurred repeatedly in this issue.


118 posted on 09/29/2009 11:25:47 PM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: John Valentine
He was born in the Republic of Panama

Not what his mother and the local English Language newspaper, the Panamanian American said. They said he was born on the submarine base.

Just because there was a new hospital built in 1942, doesn't mean their wasn't some sort of medical facility before then. There was definitely a doctor assigned to the base.

The images of "birth certificates" floating about on the net are no more real than the COLB 'bama had posted.

Besides, Law of Nations, Book II section 217 (212 has the general definition of Natural Born) says children born in the "armies of the state", to include diplomats, are treated as if they were born in the country.

121 posted on 09/29/2009 11:31:32 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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