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To: Man50D; Condor51; RegulatorCountry
Man50D, it doesn't seem you're dealing with the statute logically, if I understand your argument.

For the purpose of my part of the discussion, I really don't care whether Ruth Buzzy's grandson is a NBC, but from RC's discussion, it seems highly likely that dependence upon US law for citizenship is ipso facto not naturally born citizenship, nor would it be Congress' jurisdiction, as such is not enumerated to them.

Contrary to what you said, Barry Soetero's citizenship and potential NBC status would be judged entirely without regard to Buzzy's progeny being any kind of citizen, except perhaps in Buzzy's mind.

Condor51 is saying BHO qualifies as a citizen at birth under US Code, Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter III, Part I, paragraph g, but that would inherently mean not a NBC, as it is dependent on statute, not NBC defintion.

From all the publicly known information in combination with the above citation, BHO seems to have been born a US citizen, even if he was born in Kenya, and so long as Indonesia's adoption procedures can't nullify Zero's access to prior US citizenship, which I'm reasonably confident must be the case, but perhaps only if he availed himself of the proper US paperwork once he became of age.

Though I'd read of the five-year requirement on Stanley Ann, I hadn't seen before that only two years of those needed to be as of the age of fourteen, which she seems to have met.

With this distraction in his hip pocket, I believe the info on his Hawaiian COLB will show Barry to have been lying fraud for many years prior to his presidency, most likely as to his having been born in Kenya, but certainly not to a degree that will get him impeached in this session of Congress. That said, it would be important to note that his having been truthful on that point would certainly have kept him from getting elected president.

HF

31 posted on 09/29/2009 6:50:39 AM PDT by holden
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To: holden
Though I'd read of the five-year requirement on Stanley Ann, I hadn't seen before that only two years of those needed to be as of the age of fourteen, which she seems to have met.

You are wrong on this, Ann did NOT meet the five year requirement. This two year requirement that you are referring to is (I beleive) a later revision of the statute that was NOT, repeat, not, retroactive. Ann Dunham was legally incapable of transmitting US citizenship to Barry outside the United States in 1961.

35 posted on 09/29/2009 7:08:29 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: holden

Impeached?

You can only impeach an office holder. If the man is Constitutionally disqualified, he isn’t an office holder at all. He is little more than a trespasser.


36 posted on 09/29/2009 7:11:21 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: holden
Contrary to what you said, Barry Soetero's citizenship and potential NBC status would be judged entirely without regard to Buzzy's progeny being any kind of citizen, except perhaps in Buzzy's mind.

I didn't mention BO in my previous post to Condor 51.

With this distraction in his hip pocket, I believe the info on his Hawaiian COLB will show Barry to have been lying fraud for many years prior to his presidency, most likely as to his having been born in Kenya, but certainly not to a degree that will get him impeached in this session of Congress.

Only a President can be impeached. BO could not be impeached since he has not proven he is eligible to be President.
63 posted on 09/29/2009 8:52:42 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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