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To: tsmith130
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Steve McIntyre:

September 27th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

Re: per (#59),

per, I've read the paper very carefully and I don't see any reason why the Schweingruber data should not be incorporated into the Yamal data set. It is squarely within the geographic specification of the Hantemirov and Shiyatov study and is the correct species. The Yamal data set is far smaller than the other data sets as well in the modern portion. In addition to the AVam-Taymir merger, also note the Tornetrask-Finland merger in the third Briffa et al 2008 data set.

Also keep in mind the implausibly small size of the current portion of the Yamal archive. It would be one thing if they had only sampled 10 trees and this is what they got. But they selected 10 trees out of a larger population. Because the selection yields such different results from a nearby population sample, there is a compelling prima facie argument that they've made biased picks. This is rebuttable. I would welcome hearing the argument on the other side. I've notified one dendro of the issue and requested him to assist in the interpretation of the new data (but am not very hopeful that he will speak up.)

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78 posted on 09/28/2009 10:25:47 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (Facts are like fried eggs - just give 'em to me hot off the griddle, I'll add my own seasoning.)
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With Health Care being debated behind closed doors and now this Climate Bill (Is this the Senate version of Cap & Tax or its own socialist liberal mess?). It looks like the Dems can at least try to overwhelm the Senate and get several balls rolling in the game. Just like some pinball machines, when it puts multiple balls into play the scores can really fly high, but it's easy to lose track of them.

Besides constant pressure and support to the Blue Dog Dems that are on the fence. I think more needs to be done. I don't see another March on DC possible on short notice. I guess we can only hope for more news-worthy bombshells that expose them to the whole nation for what they are.

Glenn Beck, FOX NEWS, Breitbart and others please keep it up. My fellow Americans please keep up the pressure!

Of all the crazy Bills that they want to pass and have Obama sign into law. The scariest is the Health Care Reform w/ Single Payer. If that passes I do not think the damage can be undone. Climate Bills and Cap & Tax Bills IMHO can and will be easy fodder for repeal.

 

 

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79 posted on 09/28/2009 11:17:56 PM PDT by TheShaz
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