[mlo]

"Really, such as Obama refusing to release the actual birth certificate, instead of some legal certification..."

That's a birth certificate. "...which there is pretty good indication that it has been legally altered."

There's no such indication.

"...$10 and Obama can turn that 42% into 20% and end most of the legal challenges. Really, what is on the actual birth certificate??????"

That $10? It gets you the birth certificate you just dismissed. He already did that. And no, it hasn't ended any legal challenges.

[ridesthemiles]

That $10? It gets you the birth certificate you just dismissed”

There is a difference between a Hawaiian Certificate Of Live Birth -C O L B — and a real long form borth certificate.
Look at your own birth certificate and compare it to the ‘document’ NObama put on his website in the summer of 2008.

I will bet you that they are far different.

[Always Right]

That's a birth certificate.

There is a document that is called a certification of live birth and one called a birth certificate....two different documents with different levels of information.

That $10? It gets you the birth certificate you just dismissed. He already did that. And no, it hasn't ended any legal challenges.

Nope. Really. There is a different document called a Birth Certificate.

[Always Right]

Here is what the certificate looks like that the state of Hawaii has on record and is available for the asking. Several peices of information that is not contained on the Certification, which is the alleged document produced by un-named campaign workers.. Time, Hospital, doctor name and signature. Not available on the certification. This is the only piece of paper that guarantees that was no legal monkey business. And yes for $10 Obama could produce this.

[El Gato]

There's no such indication.

There are pages and pages of "indications". You just dismiss them.

That $10? It gets you the birth certificate you just dismissed.

But when this all began, that $10 would get you a certified copy of the Certificate of Live Birth, but you had to specifically ask for it, and it would take longer to get. It's only since mid summer that they say they will not issue the certified copies, and will only provide the abstract version. That is well documented.