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1 posted on 09/27/2009 7:14:55 PM PDT by yongin
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Paul needs to ease up on his foreign policy, then he’d be a formidable candidate. This isn’t 1800, where it would take a few weeks to cross the Atlantic.


2 posted on 09/27/2009 7:20:56 PM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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bomb iran


3 posted on 09/27/2009 7:24:32 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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How in the world are there people who think this fool is THE great hope for conservatism?


4 posted on 09/27/2009 7:30:14 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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To: yongin

Ron Paul has the same talking points of the Left Wing anti war enemy.

Those on FR who are in denial, excuse it, or agree with it
will see America and our allies face far worse than a 9/11.

Iran, Russia, Marxist Venezuela, countries who are entrenched with Al Qaida & Telaban and others who have weapons that can take out American cities, states, sections of America, not to mention the backpack bombers such as the ones who were picked up last week.

This is the reality we face.
Ron Paul and the Left Wing who say, just mind out business,
look the other way will be those who destroy America.

Those who had the same views in 1930s Europe learned the hard way.


5 posted on 09/27/2009 7:32:12 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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Yeah, you're right Ron. We should just let those peaceful, reasonable Mullahs build their nukes. After all, they aren't going to use them on us or our allies, are they?
7 posted on 09/27/2009 7:36:45 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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This makes me sick to my stomach.

Back in the 1920s Adolph Hitler made his intentions clearly known to the world. The isolationists and evil-appeasing elites of the world just laughed.

The leaders of Iran have also made their murderous attentions known to our generation.

Have we learned nothing from history?

If a dog is growling and foaming at the mouth at you, chances are he’s going to bite you if you don’t take appropriate measures to protect yourself, your children, and your community.

I suppose I just broke the rule about dehumanizing our enemies. But in this case I don’t care. These are the rabid enemies of our country, our friends, and of liberty.

All of Ron Paul’s talk about liberty is meaningless, because he seems to not understand what liberty actually is, and he lacks the will to pay the necessary price to protect it.


9 posted on 09/27/2009 7:37:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you're not a Personhood Pro-Lifer, you're a holocaust enabler, either actively or passively.)
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From the so-called Military Industrial Speech given by President Eisenhower as he left office, just for the blind devotees of Ron Paul when they flock in to defend the little messiah,

“We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country. Despite these holocausts America is today the strongest, the most influential and most productive nation in the world. Understandably proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America’s leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.”

*snip*

“A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.”

“Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.”

“Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.”

http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html


11 posted on 09/27/2009 7:40:34 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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Let the countries that Iran is actually a threat to deal with them. We don’t ALWAYS have to do the dirty work for our “allies” (ever notice we give all and get nothing in return? Kindof a one sided relationship, huh).


20 posted on 09/27/2009 8:08:35 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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At the beginning of the presidential campaign some Ron Paul supporters called to give me a code number and instructions about participating in a conference call with Dr. Paul. I am in agreement with many of the positions Ron Paul has advocated over the years. The exception was his insistence that the only reason America is hated in the Middle-East is because we are in their countries trying to take their oil and bombing their citizens. The last time I looked we were trying to buy oil in the Middle-East and kissing Muslim butt in the process.

I followed the instructions and was involved in the call. There was to be a half hour conversation and Ron Paul gave his stump speech for 17 minutes. Finally I spoke with Ron Paul and asked whether he was overlooking the Wahhabie Muslims who are raised to believe it their religious duty to kill all infidels. His response was that there was a recent study that showed that jihadists were having a much harder time recruiting suicide/homicide bombers.

The answer was non-responsive to my question. At that moment I knew that no matter how much I agreed with Ron Paul on most of his issues I did not want to see him become POTUS. Personally, I think he is just a little nutty. I also discovered over time that most of the people who I know to be Paul supporters are also a little nuts.

That presents a problem that I don’t have an answer to. Barack Obama is president. There is no question that his agenda is to reduce the influence and prosperity of America. Would a slightly crazy Ron Paul be less a threat to America than the third world Marxist who is now president?


35 posted on 09/27/2009 8:28:51 PM PDT by SkipW
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Expedite Iran’s nuke program—send them some warheads lickety-split. Say, in 28 minutes?


36 posted on 09/27/2009 8:30:07 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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On foreign policy issues Ron Paul is more like a liberal Democrat then anything else. He blames America for the 911 attacks, not the terrorists. Paul doesn't believe the US should be involved in Iraq or Afghanistan. He demands that we bring ALL our troops home from everywhere in the world. Paul wants to see America in full retreat.

Not only does Paul want to slash the size of the US military, he wants to undermine our national defense capabilities and eliminate the DHS, CIA and the FBI. Leaving America without any intelligence apparatus whatsoever.

Ron Paul, pacifist and isolationist. What a combo!

48 posted on 09/27/2009 8:57:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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THIS is the reason I will NOT vote for Ron Paul.


62 posted on 09/27/2009 9:36:52 PM PDT by patriot preacher (To be a good American Citizen and a Christian IS NOT a contradiction. (www.mygration.blogspot.com))
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It was a decorated Republican veteran who first warned us of the encroaching influence of the military industrial complex...Do you still like IKE?


63 posted on 09/27/2009 9:37:40 PM PDT by usshadley (It's time to choose..the empire or the republic? You can't have both. Time is running out.)
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ping


65 posted on 09/27/2009 9:42:53 PM PDT by murphE ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." - GK Chesterton)
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Format.

Paragraphs.

72 posted on 09/27/2009 11:35:40 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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Would it be racist to call him a?

SURRENDER MONKEY!


78 posted on 09/28/2009 5:46:12 AM PDT by McGruff (Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency - Obama)
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One way to deal with Iran is to warn them that a nuclear launch against any country will result in our retaliation 10 fold. The only major flaw in my thinking is that Obama would have to make the threat and no intelligent person would believe it.


83 posted on 09/28/2009 6:13:11 AM PDT by yazoo (Conservatives believe what they see. Liberals see what they believe.)
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84 posted on 09/28/2009 8:00:39 AM PDT by bamahead (Avoid self-righteousness like the devil- nothing is so self-blinding. -- B.H. Liddell Hart)
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"this...isolationist denialism is so fringe on the right that not even mainstreamers who are sympathetic to his broader agenda, like Glenn Beck, will go near it."

That's about it.

89 posted on 09/28/2009 10:20:35 AM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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Paul has gone so far to the right, that he came back out on the left.

What a blazing crack-pot!


90 posted on 09/28/2009 10:23:14 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Give me LIBERTY or give me an M-24A2!)
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