Posted on 09/26/2009 7:05:30 AM PDT by Maelstorm
Wrong? Really? You sure about that? I don't need to spend one second looking at anything Rasmussen has done. We had a poll in this country just last year. It was called an election. Who won the Republican nomination? The head cheese of RINO's. A man willing to bend over (the aisle) an adopt Socialism as fast as any Democrat. IOW, A RINO's RINO. None other than John Sidney McCain.
Now, I will grant you that the events of the past ten months has awakened many a sleeping Conservative, as if a Marxist thug from Chicago wasn't enough. Events of late have also brought out A LOT of voter's remorse, but the RINO's are still very well entrenched within the Republican party and are, by no means, defeated. Look at who Republicans within the party elected as Chairman, AFTER the election. Do you really think Michael Steele was the best choice? I don't.
If you believe that RINO's are on the ropes within the Republican Party you do so at your own peril. I can cite 50 years of recent history to prove my point. With the exception of the Class of '94 there is very, very little difference between the Republican Party of today and the Republican Party of 1970. Browse the history of the party and you will see that I am spot on in this assessment.....
Wilson has raised over $1.6M after his truthful statement to Obozo. But Singer doesn't want it to look like he has any support. Reality disconnect.
Sumner, like Obama, had it coming.
You are confusing issues. We ended up with McCain because of a combination of forces one of which early entry into the race of rhinos like Romney. It was clear that most republicans were not happy with their choices. Fred Thompson when he first entered the race was riding high and then the media lifted up huckabee and the Romney camp worked to cast him as lazy and uncommitted. It was the elite that left us with several bad choices. Just because they can manipulate things as witnessed with the election of Obama doesn’t mean they are a majority. It just
means money and an unlimited 24hr a day soap box via networks outsde of fox (which is only lukewarm conservative) gives the left an advantage.
Leftist social issues and fiscal policy are not popular. Don’t be fooled by circumstace. The problem conservatives have is lack of coordination not lack of numbers.
You write this speculative summation and you say I'm confusing the issues? Jeez. What you write here are your assumptions.
It was indeed clear that Republicans didn't much care for their choices. Fred Thompson and Duncan Hunter were clearly the most conservative of the bunch. You can massage the outcome of the nomination all you want and blame the media, but it's clear that the conservative Republican candidates were cast aside for the biggest RINO in Congress by the party. McCain's history is well known. He wasn't a stranger to Republican voters. They all knew he supported amnesty, the campaign finance boondoggle and a host of other issues that should have made him unelectable if the Republican Party were indeed controlled by Conservatives.
The Republican Party has a long history of nominating "the next guy in line" and this time that happened to be McCain. Like the nomination of Bob Dole, nominating McCain was another stupid move in a long line of stupid moves by Republican Party elites if they were indeed interesting a majority. It is quite clear that the majority of Republicans in elected office are indeed RINO's and they are more than content to stay in the minority. All the perks with none of the responsibility. They don't fight like they want to win. Look at the weak opposition they have put up after being totally shut out of the health care legislation discussions. Do you really think Boener and McConnell are doing all they can do to oppose this nonsense? I don't. The very existence of this nation is at stake and those two are being whipped like a rented mule by a San Francisco hippie and a crooked Senate majority leader who likely won't even win re-election. There are so many tools at the Republicans disposal to destroy the DemocRats it's laughable, yet Boener and McConnell sit by and do nothing.
Leftist social issues and fiscal policy are not popular.
Correct. This is not a liberal country. However, those in power in the Republican Party are far more liberal than the country as a whole and that, in and of itself, is the problem. It hasn't changed simply because McCain lost and Obamalamadingdong won. I think it is quite possible that this might change come 2010, but I'm not all that optimistic at this point. Some Conservatives historically have a bad habit of sitting out elections based on pet issues.
Dont be fooled by circumstace.
I'm not. I'm citing actual events of history, as opposed to theories. I look at outcomes and what I saw in 2008 was the Republican Party nominate the biggest RINO in American politics. I then watched that RINO go down to defeat mostly due to his own ineptitude. No matter how you massage it you cannot change the history of the Republican Party and the elites who maintain control of the party for the past 50 years.
Watch closely and you will see 95% of incumbent RINO Republicans get re-elected come November of 2010. Republican elites who control the Republican Party won't allow challenges to incumbents. You can bet on it. It's a sure thing because it's happened over and over for the past 50+ years. I'd like to say that a real change in the leadership of the party will occur, but history tends to repeat itself and this next election will be no different.
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