I want to hear from some of the submariners that post here. Somebody ping them.
It is my understanding that there is NO personal space on a sub. Restrooms, beds, showers, etc. are all shared.
Have things changed that make a submariners life more fitting to intimate space between men and women?
I’ll ask my Son, but it’ll have to wait.
It’s 5 A.M. in Guam. I think.
I am not a submariner, but a good friend of mine served on the Nautilus. He said his main problem was that he was married, so it would be harder on the uys trying to be faithful to their wives, knowing that their shipmates were getting attention.
“I want to hear from some of the submariners that post here.”
Patrols are long and quarters are tight. A Junior officer in my day (on a now decommissioned NUC sub, launched in 1963) had three bunks in a “room” about the size of a closet (three bunks stacked on top of each other). The enlisted had similar space to sleep in with more bunks in a room, NO PRIVACY.
How do you separate male and female? You don’t.
You’d have to be a total IDIOT to believe that this is workable but that doesn’t surprise me at all, look at what Americans elected as Pres_ent.
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I don’t see why a woman would want to anyway. Aside from the no personal space, etc........it smells, it’s cramped, six on twelve off is annoying, if you work back aft it is beyond boring, and they would have to ban Blue Nose, Shell Back Ceremonies, etc.
Actually all the PC stuff the men would have to be indoctrinated to would ruin the service..........
I did some time on subs in the sixties and as you might expect, we often discussed this possibility. It was amazing how many guys said they would get out of the Navy if they put women on subs!
The FBM boats of the sixties were huge compared to any other subs of that time, but today they are small compared to the new boats. Even so, arrangements could have been made to meet the ‘special’ privacy needs of the females.
As far as ‘indoctrination for the male swabs’ goes, whoever made that comment is not familiar with today’s Navy. Sub sailors don’t smoke, any more. It’s not allowed. They don’t use foul language, either, which begs the question, “How can they really express themselves?”
Boats today are big enough to accomodate the women and whatever ‘special’ needs they might have. Nuclear subs, then and now, have less radiation than a Santa Monica beach, so that’s not a problem. (That was documented in the fifties.) The sailors of today are ‘indoctrinated’ into PC life from the time they are sworn in. And life aboard an operating nuclear sub of any kind could not possibly be less comfortable, less secure, or have less ‘privacy’ than a middle-Eastern desert in the summer....
The Submarine Service of today is ‘touchy-feely’ to the extreme. I suspect the males will have to watch out for the females!