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Sigh, I made a claim at post 713 which I should have explicated. My only excuse is that it was late and I’m old and tired. LOL!

I said:

Genesis 1:20 can be observed in biological life because of information theory (Shannon) as it has been applied to molecular biology in a variety of successful investigations, e.g. cancer research, pharmaceuticals, Wimmer's bootstrapping the polio virus from the RNA message.

The verse from Scripture:

And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. - Genesis 1:20

Obviously, the communication (Shannon, information) is God speaking to the waters to bring forth things which have life.

That is to say, life in itself – biologically living things. (I strongly recommend Rosen’s book Life Itself to see how first and final cause are entailed in biological life.)

The link between water which is non-life and living things which are characterized by their autonomously communicating a message, DNA (Shannon, information) is the hydrogen bond.

The hydrogen bond is what gives the DNA its geometry, the double helix, and binds the message the living thing communicates within itself, ergo be alive in itself ("hath life.") (For more, I strongly recommend reading Myers’ thoughts on the geometry of biological information content.)

Every thing which is biologically (physically) alive is autonomously communicating a message that constitutes what it is – a particular daffodil, a particular dog, a particular human.

There is no biological life without the communication of that message. That is why the Urey/Miller experiments could get no further than amino acids, their experiments were blind to information theory (communication, Shannon.) And that is why Wimmer succeeded in creating the polio virus in the laboratory. Wimmer started with the message itself, e.g. polio RNA off the internet which he structured geometrically by synthesizing it and then upon introducing the message to cell-free juice, the virus replicated itself, i.e. transmitted the message.

Complexity issues – particularly William’s inversely causal meta-information – are extremely persuasive in the crevo debates.

But the poison pill to abiogenesis in my view is the communication itself, Shannon’s mathematical theory of communication.

In other words, there is no naturalistic explanation for how or why communications would arise spontaneously in a physico-chemical environment.

Our new Spiritual life is also a communication directly from God. We are biologically and spiritually a message being communicated.

In biological life, that communication is autonomous. In Spiritual life, that communication is not autonomous.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: - John 10:27

Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word. – John 8:43

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. I am the vine, ye [are] the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. - John 15:4-5

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. - Romans 8:9

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Corinthians 6:19

Again,

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. - John 3:5-7

To God be the glory!

But the poison pill to abiogenesis in my view is the communication itself, Shannon’s mathematical theory of communication. In other words, there is no naturalistic explanation for how or why communications would arise spontaneously in a physico-chemical environment.

Indeed — there's no explanation of how "dumb" matter gets "smart." Especially in light of the observation that the algorithmic complexity of the physico-chemical laws is low, estimated by the mathematician Gregory Chaitin at 10³ bits. Compare that with the algorithmic complexity of DNA, estimated at 10⁹ bits. How does one "naturalistically" get from the former to the latter? What would be the cause for matter to suddenly start communicating, and what would it be communicating?

Darwin should have made it clear he wasn't interested in "going there," and simply taken life as axiomatic in his theory.... That way he could have had an origin of species argument without having to get into the origin of life issue. Which he himself never formally did; but his lack of clarity on the question has led to much what seems to me pointless speculation on the part of his disciples over time....

Thank you ever so much, dearest sister in Christ, for your marvelous insights re: the hydrogen bond and the geometry of DNA, and its significance:

The link between water which is non-life and living things which are characterized by their autonomously communicating a message, DNA (Shannon, information) is the hydrogen bond.

Fascinating!!!