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To: betty boop

Whether you can properly call it a “model” or not, the argument is made that it’s “mathematically proven that evolution is impossible”, based on probabilities of molecules arranging themselves in certain ways without some externally directed force being applied with specific intent.


616 posted on 10/09/2009 9:29:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

[[the argument is made that it’s “mathematically proven that evolution is impossible”, based on probabilities of molecules arranging themselves in certain ways without some externally directed force being applied with specific intent.]]

Minor point here- it’s not some ‘outside force’ guiding hte system- it’s intenral infromation guiding the binding- if the info isn’t correct in the two parts that coem into contact, they will not bind- there needs to be a system of ifnromation already present, and a higher system of metainformation to ‘conduct’ the whole process in a way that keeps everythign functioning correctly for the species to remain fit- it’s not like it all happens by a force pounding square pegs into round holes


617 posted on 10/09/2009 10:13:48 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: tacticalogic; Alamo-Girl; CottShop
...the argument is made that it’s “mathematically proven that evolution is impossible”, based on probabilities of molecules arranging themselves in certain ways without some externally directed force being applied with specific intent.

Seems like a reasonable supposition that molecules do not "arrange themselves" into complete living systems, absent some guide (information). This "mathematical proof" to which you refer, what did it look like? Who created it?

624 posted on 10/09/2009 4:38:48 PM PDT by betty boop (Without God man neither knows which way to go, nor even understands who he is. —Pope Benedict XVI)
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