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To: Wacka
What the hell do “radio halos” have to do with evolution? And what the hell are they?

This refers to Robert Gentry's studies of Polonium Halos in granite. Gentry was a worker at, IIRC, Oak Ridge, who managed to get his results published in SCIENCE magazine. I studied this back in the day, in preparation for a debate with Henry Morris.

These halos are the result of radioactive inclusions of Uranium, and have a complex variability due to the various decay products. Polonium is an evanescent link in the decay chain, and Gentry claimed to have found pure Polonium halos, which were missing the traces of other decay products in the chain. This was taken by him to be evidence of Special Creation, because of the short half-life of Polonium.

Here's a refutation.

208 posted on 09/27/2009 1:51:38 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

What does this have to do with evolution??


209 posted on 09/27/2009 7:22:34 AM PDT by Wacka
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To: dr_lew

You link ot hte refutaiton was also refuted- Gentry’s discovery has stood for over two decades, and a site liek Talkorigins cna claim all they like that they ‘refuted’ Gentry- but the fact is that they haven’t- their ‘refutation’ has several problems with it- which they of course won’t tell you because htey know they haven’t infact ‘refuted’ anything- but htey do love to beat their chest and claim they have- they have an overinflated view of themselves I’m afraid


211 posted on 09/27/2009 8:51:23 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: dr_lew

And just another point- Gentry’s discoveries have not been ‘peer review discreditted’- Soemthign Wacka seems to put a lot of faith in- so yeah- Gentry’s work stil lstands in peer review as valid despite sites liek Talkorigins and infidels.org claimign ot have ‘refuted’ Gentry- Scientists actually reviewing his work certainly haven’t been able to refute Gentry- but again- TO and other such sites do love beatign hteir chest after misleading peopel with their faulty ‘counter-arguments’ (which incidently have re-rebuttled elsewhere- somethign they won’t disclose to an unsuspecting public)

If you’re goign to list the ‘refutations’ at least list where those being criticised resond to the criticisms- Gentry defends hismelf quite adequately agaisnt the silly claism over on TO here: Evolution must involve origins http://www.halos.com/reports/index.htm

You’ll find several sites that have refuted and expopsed the error in what Talkorigins claimed here:

The collapse of ‘geologic time’
Tiny halos in coalified wood tell a story that demolishes ‘long age’.

http://creation.com/the-collapse-of-geologic-time

http://www.halos.com/reports/index.htm

Polonium Radiohalos: The Model for Their Formation Tested and Verified

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=2467

And:

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=471

http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/1107rate.asp


212 posted on 09/27/2009 9:12:10 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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