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To: CottShop

Crickets from the creats on the science. All religion posted, no science.

From my view, it appears that your view of god is that he is a mean one, fooling man all the time.
It appears to me that if one doesn’t believe exactly what you say they should, one will not go to heaven.
It appears to me that you believe that all the scientific proof of an old earth and universe and evolution was put there by god to fool us.

Why should he want to punish and fool us?


170 posted on 09/25/2009 2:20:58 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: Wacka

[[Crickets from the creats on the science. All religion posted, no science.]]

Already posted on FR- have fun looking them up

[[From my view, it appears that your view of god is that he is a mean one, fooling man all the time.
]]

‘Fooling us’? How so?

[[It appears to me that if one doesn’t believe exactly what you say they should, one will not go to heaven.
]]

Psssst- it’s NOT ‘how I say’- it’s how GOD says in His word- Baptism comes AFTER a person acknowledges their lost state, confesses their sins, and accepts Christ- There was NEVER any infant baptism in the bible- none- Infants are incapable of acknowledging their lost condition- Baptism is a statment BY the one being baptised, that they are saved-

“(1) The Bible does not mention any babies or small children being baptized. (There is no record of infants being baptized in the Bible.)

(2) The word for “baptize” in the original Greek means “to immerse” in water.

(3) The Bible says that those who believe may be baptized. Since infants cannot understand, and therefore cannot believe on Jesus Christ, baptism must then be for adults, or at least for those old enough to understand. It must not be for infants. Also, Baptists believe that baptism plays no part in salvation itself.

http://www.baptistcatholic.com/

so no- it’s not ‘how I say’ people shopuld be saved, but rather how the Bible- God’s word says they should be- Ye must be born again Jesus said to Nicedemus- Was He lying to Nic? No man cometh to hte father but by Christ’ Was Christ lying hten too? Salvation is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man shoudl boast- Was He lyign there too?

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Timothy 2:5)

Perhaps you have heard someone say “there are many ways to God”. This is a very popular claim but it is simply false. There is only one way to God, and that one way is through Jesus Christ, God’s Son. All other ways will lead you to judgment by God for your sins, followed by punishment in the eternal Lake of Fire.

“But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” (Revelation 21:8)

[[It appears to me that you believe that all the scientific proof of an old earth and universe and evolution was put there by god to fool us.]]

there is NO proof of an old earth- only assumptions (that quite frankly IGNORE evidneces refuting old age earth- so no- I don’t beleive old age earth assumptions

[[Why should he want to punish and fool us?
]]

P{ssst- it aint God fooling you- it’s man with their ASSUMPTIONS that have done so- Age dating methods are based solely on assumptions NOT science fact


171 posted on 09/25/2009 2:35:45 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Wacka

Your premise is backwards therefore your results will be as well. God will let you fool yourself all day long if your motive is to deny God and wallow in your sin. On the other hand if you start with a premise of seeking truth and examine the evidence supporting the Bible then you will be overwhelmed by how awesome and amazing God’s work truly is. BTW He claims in His Good Book that creation is all the evidence you’ll ever need to conclude His existence.

But the question remains are you willing to change your premise and make a sincere attempt to find the evidence for God? The best place to start is the Bible but here is another site that explains the wonders of creation from a Biblical perspective:

Center for Scientific Creation - In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html


172 posted on 09/25/2009 2:49:31 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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