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To: HogsBreath

Federal Law oversees State Law whether we like it or not


5 posted on 09/23/2009 7:32:29 PM PDT by Dov in Houston (The word Amnesty invokes a passion in me. Illegal immigrants are criminals. Supporters Aid & Abet)
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To: Dov in Houston
Federal Law oversees State Law whether we like it or not

Within Constitutional limits.

15 posted on 09/23/2009 7:35:56 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Dov in Houston

And the Supreme Court in the KELO case say if the people want change they must get the state to enact them.


17 posted on 09/23/2009 7:38:06 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: Dov in Houston

And the Constitution trumps federal law.


18 posted on 09/23/2009 7:38:28 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: Dov in Houston
Federal Law oversees State Law whether we like it or not

There is this little thing called the Constitution that requires the Fed to have jurisdiction. That have none in this case.

20 posted on 09/23/2009 7:38:36 PM PDT by SampleMan (No one should die on a gov. waiting list., or go broke because the gov. has dictated their salary.)
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To: Dov in Houston

Only if the Government has jurisdiction.

The Fed’s can’t just say “Blacks can’t vote in TX regardless of what state law says”. They have to have constitutional authority first. In the cases that the feds have constitutional authority then yes Federal Law will always trump state or local law. Then the Supremacy clause would kick in.


31 posted on 09/23/2009 7:41:44 PM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by their fruity little club.)
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To: Dov in Houston

You mean Constitutionally speaking or “for all intents and purposes”?

Because you are right in the first regard, but only in those instances where the US Constitution specifically sets forth that it is a federal power. All other rights belong to the states or the citizens...Constitutionally speaking.


32 posted on 09/23/2009 7:41:46 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'd rather be a teabagger than an ankle-grabber.)
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To: Dov in Houston
Federal Law oversees State Law whether we like it or not

That's Constitutionally false. The Federal Constitution overrides State law, yes. But Federal Statutes can only override State law when they a) are Constitutional, and b) can Constitutionally be applied to the case at hand. In cases where the commerce clause is the primary Constitutional authority for the law, it cannot Constitutionally be applied to any act that is not a commercial transaction crossing State lines. Those are the Constitutional requirements, regardless of what any bureaucrat or invalid-on-its-face court decision may say.

36 posted on 09/23/2009 7:44:22 PM PDT by sourcery (Party like it's 1776!)
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To: Dov in Houston

Not if the federal law is unconstitutional. The argument is that a law that regulates purely in-state commerce is unconstitutional. The courts will have to aettle this. Given that a federal court will make the ruling, the argument will likely fail. Then again, the ONLY law struck down on this basis was a federal school zone gun ban.


38 posted on 09/23/2009 7:45:38 PM PDT by piytar (Zero pimping propaganda on all SRM channels at once: Big Brother in 2009! NRA Lifetime Member)
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To: Dov in Houston

“Federal Law oversees State Law whether we like it or not”

But the federal government’s power is restricted by the Constitution. The fed seems to think they have no limits. Matter of opinion but who has the most guts to stand their ground is who will win.

I think We the People are becoming meaner than junk yard dogs as we are tired of the tyranny from the feds.


48 posted on 09/23/2009 7:51:20 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Dov in Houston
that is funny considering that the most retarded antigun arguments slobber on about the 'shall not be infringed' part being fed, and that the states and cities therein are exempt...

cant have it both ways...

90 posted on 09/23/2009 8:52:39 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Luke 22:36...Trust in the Lord...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Dov in Houston

Federal Law oversees State Law whether we like it or not

Only in areas that the federal government is given Constitutional authority.


93 posted on 09/23/2009 8:57:15 PM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: Dov in Houston

Not in the case of “physician assisted death” in Oregon, Gonzales v. Oregon, 04-623
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=000&invol=04-623


128 posted on 09/24/2009 2:24:18 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: Dov in Houston
Federal Law oversees State Law whether we like it or not

Perhaps so. But what the state CAN do is to forbid any cooperation or interaction between any state law enforcement agency and the BATFE. Including not accepting any federal grants which would be conditional on such cooperation.

133 posted on 09/24/2009 5:17:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Dov in Houston

Only if the Federal law is within a power granted to the Federal government by the Constitution.

At least that’s the way it would be if the first ten amendments weren’t numbered 1,(ignore),3,4,5,6,7,8,9,(ignore).


143 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:01 PM PDT by javachip (TARP - proof there is no situation so bad that government can't make it worse.)
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