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So, Congress passed the stimulus package without the majority of it's members having read the bill. Now comes the ultimate abdication of responsibility and duty: passing a bill that hasn't even been written yet. Could this be any more un-democratic? 2010 can't come fast enough.
1 posted on 09/23/2009 7:04:57 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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You can say that again. 2010 will be a bloodbath.


2 posted on 09/23/2009 7:07:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Reaganesque

This is to be filed under “no Duh”. This was the Dem back-up plan all along.


3 posted on 09/23/2009 7:08:56 AM PDT by repubpub
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the liberal caucus of 57 Democrats, 2 Independents (Senators Joe Lieberman of Connecticut and Bernie Sanders of Vermont), and a potential new member

Nelson (D- Ne )will never go along with this, unless he wants to be toast.

4 posted on 09/23/2009 7:15:20 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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Another reason why any bill passed anywhere in the country needs to be a ONE ITEM bill.

There is far too much ‘piggy-backing’ going on everywhere, especially in Washington.

It is downright fraud, IMO.


5 posted on 09/23/2009 7:15:25 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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This Communist Camel wants to get nis nose under the tent knowing after that ‘revisions’ can be attached as riders on all sorts on really necessary legislation. Its an old, old D.C. tactic perfected by the Libs.


6 posted on 09/23/2009 7:15:59 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Still, if politicians don’t listen to the American people, in 2010 many may have to reconcile the fact that they’re not Members of Congress anymore.- from the Human Events link above.

If politicians don't listen to the American People, it doesn't matter to the Republic that the Congress gets turned over in 2010. The damage will be done and irreversible unless THIS Congress can be induced to repeal in the first couple of months after passage. By November 2010 the bureaucracy will be, in large part, in place- even if they don't really have anything to do for a couple of years- and no Congress, not even a Conservative Republican Congress will dis-employ all those bureaucrats.

10 posted on 09/23/2009 7:18:43 AM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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Buncha RAT bastards.

STEP THREE: Senator Reid will then move to proceed to H.R. 1586, a bill to impose a tax on bonuses received by certain TARP recipients. This bill was the bill passed by the House in the wake of the AIG bonus controversy and is currently sitting on the Senate Legislative Calendar. Reid will move to proceed, and he will need 60 votes to act on this bill.

That may be the saving grace. Hopefully even the RINOS will see what a slimy, sleazy process this is.

2010 is a long way off. We need to keep pounding out the message. But it needs to be refreshed now and again so as not to become boring and repetitive. People are getting motivated. We need to keep that motivation in high gear for a year. A daunting task.

13 posted on 09/23/2009 7:22:09 AM PDT by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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IIRC, something like this process was used to pass the initial bailout bill? Didn’t the Senate gut a bill on the agenda and sub in the text of the bailout bill for the vote? My concern at the time was the Constitution calls for money bills to originate in the House, and this one started in the Senate; but the process circumvented the House origination requirement, I think. I’ll have to do some more checking...


14 posted on 09/23/2009 7:26:02 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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21 posted on 09/23/2009 7:51:45 AM PDT by niteowl77 (You wanted him, and now you have got him. I say, "Good day to you," America.)
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Didn't they try this tactic with the comprehensive immigration reform last year?

If I recall correctly, since all spending bills must originate in the House, the Senate took an unrelated bill that passed the House, passed an amendment gutting the original contents of the bill, and then passed additional amendments replacing the contents with immigration reform.

This "new" bill was then to go back to the House to be passed again there.

-PJ

30 posted on 09/23/2009 10:35:15 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Comprehensive congressional reform legislation only yields incomprehensible bills that nobody reads.)
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If this is how our “representatives” want to behave, then they no longer server the purpose outlined for them in the Constitution. They are not representatives of the people, and this is no longer a government of, by, and for the people.

This government is a charade, intended to play us against each other, while the “rulers” in DC do whatever they wish to centralize power and money in DC.

They ALL have to go.


32 posted on 09/23/2009 10:41:26 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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Once the Senate passes a bill and sends it to the House, all the House would have to do is pass the bill, without changes ...

And therein lies the failure of the plan, there is no way the House will provide the necessary 218. The Black Caucus will not vote unless they get the public option, not the phony co-op stuff, but all-out coverage to every citizen, the first step to single-payer. And Bart Stupak (D-MI) is on record with Pelosi, he has the votes to kill any bill that does not include the Hyde amendment language, Baucus does not -- I don't know if any of these hundreds of amendments does, but at this point, without that, the pro-life folks will deny passage and this is one principle that cannot be bartered away with pork deals.

35 posted on 09/23/2009 12:27:15 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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38 posted on 09/23/2009 7:55:13 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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BTTT


42 posted on 09/29/2009 5:37:06 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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