Carrie Prejean Electrifies Conservative Base

Christian Post ^ | 9/19/2009 | Michelle Vu

[70times7]

The closest you could get, IMO, would be the same arguement Paul made in explaining why it was improper, in some cases, for a Christian to eat meat sacrificed to idols. It is one known to anyone who knows scripture. Why would you throw profanity instead of behaving properly? The problem is that while that may apply to being in a pagent, I don't think you can apply it to cosmetic surgery.

Christ's strongest condemnation was for those who took scripture and corrupted it into what they had decided rather than what God said. On top of that they used their revision of scripture to impose their own moral framework on everyone. It is a particular danger that every Christian faces. God created us in his image and we return the favor.

The request is simple. A basic tenant of scripture should be easy to support without abusive language.

[70times7]

I wonder, frankly, if he goes by what scripture actually says or by what he has been told it says. I suspect LVR is a legalist who claims to know scripture, but has only latched onto parts that support what he prefers to believe.

I cannot help but but be puzzled, Ron, as to how you can be bothered by "name calling" after what you posted to me.

[Las Vegas Ron]

First of all I have used no profanity nor have I revised scripture, I haven't quoted any, therefore I could not have corrupted it.

I simply said in earlier posts that she should not use Christianity to hold one opinion based on Biblical tenants and then be in violation another tenant, ie using her body to tempt men, selling her soul to gain etc....it's fodder for hypocrisy

[Las Vegas Ron]

You know, after reading that post, you're an ass and a bit of a projectionist.

Did you read what that poster wrote?

[Talisker]

I wonder, frankly, if he goes by what scripture actually says or by what he has been told it says.

I think you're giving him too much credit. I don't think he'd know the Bible from a bag of potato chips. I think he's just here to have some contemptuous fun with the flyover people, while keeping the attack on Carrie Prejean alive to help punish those opposed to gay marriage.

[70times7]

No, you claimed her obtaining breast implants violated a basic tenant of scripture. Explain how. And stop the “look in the bible” garbage, or the “try looking in Acts” silliness. If you know scripture as you claim you should be able to support your claim. Fer cryin’ out loud, I already GAVE you one possible avenue, but you better know I am also able to reference passages and ideas that would refute more than I have already stated. If you are unable to support your statements have the integrity to say so. If you actually want to have a discussion quit acting like a jerk and get on with it.

[Talisker]

You know, after reading that post, you're an ass and a bit of a projectionist.

LOL, "Christian."

[Las Vegas Ron]

Where exactly do I find that? 1 Hooters 5:17? I don’t know that part

I cannot help but but be puzzled, Ron, as to how you can be bothered by "name calling" after what you posted to me.

Now you know, well probably not, fool....show disrespect, get disrespect

[70times7]

I can't say, but I think some of your comments may be a bit harsh. I would have to look through his posts first. He's been around since 06, so I would think he would have been "smoked out" already if that was true.

I think it is more likely that he became upset over my scripture like (and admittedly edgy) humor and reacted to it as he did to her - he applied his own moral framework and worked up his own "righteous indignation".

I will say it strikes me as a rare thing for someone claiming to ba a Christian getting a post yanked for profanity/abuse. I have been around a while and in all those years I have only had one post yanked. It had no profanity, but it was harsh. I pinged the moderator myself. Hopefully the "target" never did see it.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Why, would I engage in a conversation with someone who has no incling what so ever of what the Bible says regarding women tempting men with their body and not their heart and soul?

Go find another poster to troll with, no thanks.

If you don't have that basic Biblical understanding, there is no conversation to be had.

[Fractal Trader]

Here’s some quotes for the faithful:

Leviticus 19:28
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord.”

Deuteronomy 14:1
“Ye are the sons of the LORD your God; you shall not cut yourselves,

If the Bible doesn’t like tattoos, it is hard to believe that it is in favor of breast implants!

And from the New Testament:
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
“What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.”

Also:
1 Corinthians 3:16
NIV: “Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred, and you are that temple.”

[70times7]

How did I disrespect you Ron? I didn't.

And BTW, are you forgetting Matthew 5:22?

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

[Praxeologue]

Did Carrie Prejean state that she had breast implants, or is this conjecture?

[clamper1797]

How did you get that pic of my ex-wife ??? It is good to see that she has lost some weight though

[Fractal Trader]

She had implants. The story goes that they were designed to “equalize” her chances against the other competitors and that they were sponsored/paid for by the Miss California organization.

If you dig deeper, I am sure you will find a more accurate version of this story.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Where exactly do I find that? 1 Hooters 5:17? I don’t know that part

You don't find that a bit disrespectful if not contentious? I do

And as I mentioned I am not perfect, nor am I angry at you but I don't know you, maybe I'm a bit defensive? I dunno.

[cricket]

homina homina homina...

So; okay true, lol. . .but 'electrifying base'? She is only twenty two; and while articulate; she is not THAT articulate! Which brings one back, perhaps to your observation/lol. Too much beyond that is scary!

Of course; there are many young people who could use some electrifying when it comes to Conservative principles. . .and others as well. . .so, nuff said, perhaps.

[Talisker]

I think it is more likely that he became upset over my scripture ... he applied his own moral framework and worked up his own "righteous indignation".

Obviously not all Christians are biblical scholars. But I think it's pretty safe to say that when a Christian self-professes to the level of declaring someone's good character "negated" from a specifically Christian point of view, they can back it up with at least some biblical reference, no matter how generalized.

Problem is, many liberals try to attack Christians through infiltration and attempted subversion. Their probem, however, is that they are in denial about the fact that their angry delusions about Christianity are - angry delusions. So when they infiltrate, they try to shame Christians with their own confused morality accusations, as if these will create some sort of meltdown in their targets. And if Christians fight back, they are called hypocrites, so the liberal thinks it's a win-win plan.

From a truly Christian perspective, of course, such efforts are childish. But they are nevertheless the common attitude of liberals, almost universally. So, while I do check for genuine Christian earnestness, as the taunting posts continue without reasonable Christian thinking, I feel pretty confident that a hypocrite has been discovered.

As for harshness, I guess I believe there is a limit to turning the other cheek. After all, Jesus also said to buy a sword... and he flipped the tables on the hypocrites : )

[Las Vegas Ron]

BTW, with all do respect;

Proverbs 31:30 Favour [is] deceitful, and beauty [is] vain: [but] a woman [that] feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.