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Obama Administration Calls for Study on Removing Dams from Snake River to Help Salmon
CNS News ^ | 9/18/2009 | William McCall

Posted on 09/20/2009 8:41:57 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: livius

I know what you’re saying, we have some brain-dead family members too but it’s way past time for these people to be put straight and quit blaming Bush. It’s ludicrous the lack of balanced thinking out there.

They need to do some research on fisheries development, what works and what doesn’t and see just exactly who was supporting the good conservation efforts, not the politcal efforts.


21 posted on 09/20/2009 10:40:57 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: IbJensen

De-development at work


22 posted on 09/20/2009 11:44:46 AM PDT by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: pissant; Jeff Head; Grampa Dave; amom; blackie; PhilDragoo; All

O and his enviro freaks at it again! We’re looking at the dams near me being taken out...at millions of cost to ELECTRIC customers...yet the powers that be tell us to drive electric cars, but soon the electricity will be as high as gas!

IDIOTS! CORRUPT IDIOTS!


23 posted on 09/20/2009 11:49:18 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: DaiHuy

“Provided the Native Americans actually take their gill nets out of the rivers.”

What a load of crappola that is! Modern ‘native Americans’ waste more fish than the rest of us use altogether. Living proof that ‘a nation within a nation’ DOES NOT WORK!


24 posted on 09/20/2009 11:51:25 AM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: IbJensen
I have a better idea, why don't we remove all the dams from California rivers in the north(the south doesn't really have rivers)and then we can see the valley flood every year like it did in the past. Why I have seen pictures of where people rowed their boats between Sacramento and Stockton because the whole valley was flooded.

Then there is the matter of water storage, who cares if people have nothing to drink in the summer? The north usually has rivers that run year round and we can always cut off water to LA and San Diego and all little towns in the surrounding areas, not to mention that farmers won't have to worry about the water being turned on because their won't be any.(do I need the sarcasm tag?)

25 posted on 09/20/2009 11:54:18 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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They have proposed the removal of four dams on the Klamath River. If they succeed, I believe these will be the largest dams removed in the United States.

You should see the corruption in the agencies and the use of corrupted science to support dam removal. It is obscene. For instance, sampling behind the dams in 2006 discovered cyanide and dioxin at levels hazardous to human health in the sediment behind the dams. Siskiyou County, which opposes dam removal, raised concerns about the human and environmental damage breaching the dams would cause. (Such poisonous sediment would require dredging and disposal of sediment in special landfills at an exorbitant cost rather than release downstream.) We also questioned the costs/benefits of removal if responsible treatment of the hazards and restoration of the land exposed where included in the considerations.

In response, the federal and state government's have worked to shield themselves from any liability, have excluded County consultants from auditing the scientific process and have ordered new sediment sampling down the middle of the stream where problems are least likely and to specifically exclude any further sampling for cyanide or dioxin. Sediment models used have been experimental ones that assume a particulate size larger than what actually exists behind the dams - models that produce a favorable flushing result- rather than the likely result of long term suspension of sediment in the water column.

A recent TMDL (Clean Water Act total maximum daily load for pollutants) set for the Klamath forces dam removal. It is all so corrupt. By the way, the same groups behind the Central Valley water cut off (PCFFA, etc.) are the same people behind the Klamath. They have shut down the timber and mining industries for salmon and have made a huge dent in any viable agricultural industry. It is a massive transfer of wealth.

http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/settlement/letters/2009.htm
http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/settlement/articles09/2009.htm

26 posted on 09/20/2009 11:57:45 AM PDT by marsh2
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“You should see the corruption in the agencies and the use of corrupted science to support dam removal. It is obscene.”

BTT!!


27 posted on 09/20/2009 12:04:28 PM PDT by AuntB (If the TALIBAN grew drugs & burned our land instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

I’ve been hearing about this on our radio.

We should be listed on the Endangered Species Act. We ARE an endangered species!!!


28 posted on 09/20/2009 12:06:12 PM PDT by amom
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So how is it that they are going to charge all of these electric cars they want? No nuclear power, no hydro, no coal, heck they are even protesting wind and solar.


29 posted on 09/20/2009 12:07:13 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Colorado Doug

They will pray to Thor the god of thunder.


30 posted on 09/20/2009 1:05:28 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: AuntB

Corrupt Idiots fits them to a tee!!


31 posted on 09/20/2009 3:32:04 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: chris_bdba

Wait until a fish can hire an attorney.


32 posted on 09/21/2009 4:00:16 AM PDT by IbJensen (If Catholic voters were true to their faith there would be no abortion and no President Obama.)
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To: AuntB
ok then why is taking their nets out of the river if they waste more than anyone else. No nets in river=no wasted fish from river.
33 posted on 09/21/2009 5:20:57 AM PDT by DaiHuy (One Big Assed Mistake America)
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