Posted on 09/18/2009 4:26:21 PM PDT by Flavius
Lets pretend that really happens .... then what ? Will the Muslim world suddenly transform from the rat-hole it is into some magical utopia on earth? No ... it will still be the 7th century rat-hole it's always been, with one important difference. Suddenly the failure of Islam will have nobody to blame it on.
President Merkin Muffley: Read it!
General "Buck" Turgidson: Ahem... The Duty Officer asked General Ripper to confirm the fact that he *had* issued the go code, and he said, uh, "Yes gentlemen, they are on their way in, and no one can bring them back. For the sake of our country, and our way of life, I suggest you get the rest of SAC in after them. Otherwise, we will be totally destroyed by Red retaliation. Uh, my boys will give you the best kind of start, 1400 megatons worth, and you sure as hell won't stop them now, uhuh. Uh, so let's get going, there's no other choice. God willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural... fluids. God bless you all" and he hung up.
General "Buck" Turgidson: Uh, we're, still trying to figure out the meaning of that last phrase, sir.
President Merkin Muffley: There's nothing to figure out, General Turgidson. This man is obviously a psychotic.
General "Buck" Turgidson: We-he-ell, uh, I'd like to hold off judgement on a thing like that, sir, until all the facts are in.
President Merkin Muffley: General Turgidson! When you instituted the human reliability tests, you *assured* me there was *no* possibility of such a thing *ever* occurring!
General "Buck" Turgidson: Well, I, uh, don't think it's quite fair to condemn a whole program because of a single slip-up, sir.
That's how I feel about Iran. I am totally tired of hearing about them and worrying about what they are up to now.
I think we would be amazed at how many of the world's problems would go away if took care of Iran. No apologies, no warning, just do it! And then let the backlash begin. It won't last forever. I don't care if they like or not, that's up to them, but I damn sure want to make sure they fear us and as a result respect us.
IMHO, I would nuke Iran before I let another American die in that God-forsaken part of the world. Period. I'll bet you would see a huge difference in the behavior other regimes like Iran once they knew we had the balls to vaporize them.
Don't get me wrong. I much prefer a peaceful settlement to the problem. I'm willing to adopt a live and let live approach, but sadly they aren't. Dollars to donuts they will not hesitate to use a nuclear weapon the moment they figure out how.
The outcome will be the same whether we nuke them now or after they've wiped out an America city. It makes no sense whatsoever to give them first dibs on doing away with the other.
You are absolutely right. And the reason we are having to deal with Iran today is because of one man, and one man only:
Jimmy Carter. That stupid ass stabbed the Shah of Iran in the back. When Carter took Office in January 1977, Iran was a solid and dependable U.S. ally, it had no aggressive ambitions in the Middle East to speak of, it had no axe to grind regarding Israel, Iranian society was modern, progressive and women were not treated like property. Iran was a reliable force for stability in the Middle East and was also a bulwark against Soviet adventurism (which is why the Tudah, i.e. Iranian Communist Party was always trying to agitate against the Shah, happy to make common cause with the radicals loyal to the then-exiled Ayatollah in Paris).
When Carter thankfully left Office in January 1981, Iran was an avowed U.S. enemy, it had been transformed into a rogue state which sponsored terrorism, and it represented the first time that a terrorist organization had actually been able to seize control of a modern nation-state, all thanks to the Buffoon from Georgia.
So if anyone (especially Israel) wants to blame someone for the threat of a nuclear Iran threatening the extinction of the Jewish State, they need look no further than that chiklet-grinning, sh*t-headed sonuvabitch Jimmy Carter.
And if Iran DOES manage to lob a nuke at a U.S. target (be it naval task group, a U.S. city, smuggled in on a freighter, etc.), we can only hope that if there is any true cosmic justice, that Jimmah will be within 2 to 3 miles of Ground Zero.
PS - That scene you were thinking of in Raiders of the Lost Ark? I recall reading an interview with Harrison Ford in which he said that originally, he was supposed to have a sword tossed to him by one of his friends, and an extended sword fight was supposed to take place, but as it happened, Ford was sick with a fever, felt like Hell, and when his adversary was swinging that sword (or perhaps it was a bullwhip) around, Ford just pulled his pistol (loaded with blanks of course) and ‘shot’ the guy, and the swordsman being the professional he was, had the presence of mind to collapse in ‘death’, and according to Ford, Spielberg went bananas saying “CUT! CUT! CUT! That’s PERFECT!!!” LOL
You can be sure that IF Israel were to launch a preemptive nuclear strike on Iran, it would hold back sufficient nuclear weapons so to retain a second strike capability, i.e., they’re not going to fire the whole shootin’ works off all at once.
Israel has had 61 years to learn and observe from the best, and that’s the U.S. of A., and during the years of SAC supremacy (and it is highly possible it is still the case), it was United States military policy to not only preserve a second strike capability in the event of nuclear war with the Soviets, but a third and even fourth strike capability. That is why it was so critical to get our submarine launched missiles out to sea and on patrol for extended periods.
Israel is in a different situation however, if they strike Iran, they can be virtually certain that at least Syria will launch a retaliatory strike upon them, which as I see it will lead to the nuclear decimation of Damascus, which will never rise again.
Ah yes, you are correct! It was a sword, not a whip! Thanks!
” And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8: And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God” - Genesis 17:7
Do you know what “everlasting” means, Mahmoud? Do you know what it means when God says something twice in a row, Mahmoud?
It means “It is established” and nobody is big enough to change that.
Do you know who said this, Mahmoud? The Creator of Heaven and earth said it, Mr. Ahmadinajad. God said it and He means it.
He repeated this promise to Isaac and to Jacob, which means that you Muslims don’t get any of it. You’re sons of Abraham but not of Isaac, the child of the Promise.
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