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To: Smokin' Joe

“Every service person engaged in operations on foreign soil who operates under the orders of this commander in chief is in peril of being held personally accountable for their actions under local law if they are serving under a Commander in Chief who has no claim to the office due to being ineligible.”

Again, do you understand how the command structure works? This nonsense has been debunked whether you like it or not.

“In order to have sedition, you have to have a lawful government.”

Where did this come from? Have you and your fellow travelers now set up a parallel government up in the mountains somewhere and declatred the United States Code void, or at least not applicable to seditionists?

“There are those of us who have been seeking proof of the Constitutional eligibliity of the candidate, now in office, and who have been seeking that proof since well before the election,”

And you have continued to fail to produce one single substantive or material piece of evidence to support your claim or any law to support the notion that you or your co-conspirators can compel anyone to prove to you that he is eligible to be president. It isn’t up to you.

“Calling those of us who want that proof seditionists requires the proof that the government is, in fact lawful, or there can be no sedition.

It is a fine circular reasoning that you claim we are something you cannot prove unless the current occupant of the White House proves his eligibility.

If such proof is not forthcoming, there can be no sedition.”

But sadly for you, SJ, in the real world there is a US Code and there is a crime of sedition. If and when you or anyone you know gets charged, try your defense. When the laughing stops, the convictions will start.

“So join, if you will, the Left, the Marxists, and others who decry those who seek to resolve this problem, one unforseen by the Founders, and a measure of how far we have become removed from the Constitutional Republic they intended, in that while the tentacles of Socialism wrap themselves around economic sector after economic sector we cannot determine whether our alleged President is, in fact a Natural Born Citizen.”

Im sorry, but that’s just plain off the wall. You may have a better defense than “no lawful government” if you ever are charged with sedition.


147 posted on 09/19/2009 10:20:38 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
It is a great stretch, even in the world of jurisprudence, to call those who would uphold the Constitution "seditionists". I am not calling for the military to revolt, those are words you try to plant on me. Nope, not wearing that.

You are the one calling for the people who continue to question the unvetted eligibility of a quite possibly ineligible presidential candidate to be tried for sedition?

Allegedly, at least, this is a nation of laws. Those who have no other redress are seeking in court to see that the most basic of our laws are upheld in that the candidate, who was not vetted, who was not claimed to be vetted (not in writing), except by his 'word', and who is for all practical purposes undocumented, is eligible under the requirements for office under the United States Constitution.

As I have said, it is a simple matter of releasing the documents--documents required of any job applicant or prospective kindergardener.

The ONLY reason to fail to do so is that there is something to hide.

My concern is his Natural Born Citizen Status. For you to be loosely throwing about accusations of "sedition" for that concern is enough to indicate to me that you are a friend of the man, but not of the Republic nor its Constitution.

While specific legal means did not exist to force the divulgence of that information during the last election, they will in the future. For now, the matter has been referred to the courts, and it will continue to be until settled.

155 posted on 09/19/2009 10:36:24 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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