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Religion is prior to civilization.

I guess that explains the Dark Ages, the Inquisition and the two bloodiest wars the human race has ever indulged itself in, all in the same place.

Without France, there probably wouldn't have been an America. Most likely wouldn't, actually.

You are viewing history in narrow slices. No one has seen the long-term. Christianity has itself changed, mutated, spliced and spawned into various new religions- much like every other man-made systems of superstition.

Again, I know you've been zotted, but what kind of moron cites WWI and WWII as religious wars? They only count as religious wars if you consider Kaiser Bill's homosexual tendencies more important than his strategic goals (still a stretch, it's not as if fellatio is a religion), and consider Hitler primarily an anti-religious operator. I agree with the latter, but that certainly wouldn't support your screeds against religion.

If your point is that these wars prove that Europe was not civilized despite Christianity's presence there, perhaps you could find us a "civilized" country with a government founded on atheism. Shouldn't be too hard...you have every communist country and Germany from 1933-1945 to choose from.

Oh, and just one more thing: Your civilized fellow atheists killed almost twice as many people during the Tet Offensive than died in 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition. In fact, the number of civilians massacred at Hue by the Cong was almost as high as the lower end estimates for the inquisition (2,800 vs. 3,000) and in March, 1975 they killed possibly as many as 150,000 people (including tens of thousands of refugees) with constant shelling in an incident known as the "column of tears."

Too bad you're gone...I can do this all day.

Oh, and let's not forget you've racked up another...

Without France, there probably wouldn't have been an America. Most likely wouldn't, actually.

Correct. The problem is that they helped us before the atheists took over in their revolution, sad sack.