Posted on 09/18/2009 9:22:24 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
There’s a big difference between a person who is a non-Christian and a person who comes here to lie, insult people and make trouble while claiming to represent the truth. You are the former, OldSpice was the latter.
Wait...you claim to worship a God who referred to fictional characters as if they were real people, and expect to be taken seriously?
Really?
And do your cohorts who call the theory “evoloserism” also earn your approbation that they are acting like a 10 year old? No. You set yourself up as a scolding arbitrator of manners only when it is your own ox being gored.
As I said, Creationism retards ones intellectual and theological views, thus it is “cretarded”.
You think scientific theories must subject themselves to your religious assumptions a priori, and you expect to be taken seriously in the scientific world?
Really?
Really?
I can't wait for him to show his "true colors." I figure it's just a matter of time....
Yes, he re-wrote the bible keeping the diamonds and tossing the rest to the dung-hill as he put it. He tossed out the Virgin Birth, the Resurrection and Jesus as the Son of God.
He described Jesus as an illegitimate child with no relationship to God.
Here is TJ calling the trinity the "Abracadabra" of the priests.
"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."
... the demoralizing dogmas of Calvin.
1. That there are three Gods.
2. That good works, or the love of our neighbor, is nothing.
3. That faith is every thing, and the more incomprehensible the proposition, the more merit the faith.
4. That reason in religion is of unlawful use.
5. That God, from the beginning, elected certain individuals to be saved, and certain others to be damned; and that no crimes of the former can damn them; no virtues of the latter save.”
Thomas Jefferson
Old Spice: Fat chance.
John Adams was a Unitarian and not an atheist, simply not a Christian.
snip: As for the “law of Identity”, that’s pure Aristotelian thought. That horse has been beat too many times for me to explain that.
Spirited: The “law of identity’ is built on the metaphysical foundation of monism (paganism, naturalism), meaning that everything is ‘one with’ and/or an extension of nature or cosmos. By extension of this view, Aristotle very naturally believed that mankind is completely controlled by (fated, doomed,etc) unseen forces of nature.
In other words, man’s ‘identity’ has been written by the stars (planets, gods) long before man is born. Man, having no free will, is fated or doomed to be and to live according to what the ‘gods’ have written. Consequently, a few men were fated to be kings and the owners of everything while the many were fated to be subhumans who owned nothing and whose lives were spent as drudges in service to the kings.
Today’s neo-pagans call that last concept ‘social construction.’
Modernity’s neo-paganism takes two forms: positivist materialism-secular humanism and Cosmic Humanism. Note the language common to both: caused (by the gods) and determined (fated by the gods)and variations on that theme: genetically determined, triune brain, socially constructed.
‘Gayness’ is ‘fully caused’ by ‘genetics’ and heteronormativity is the neo-sin of believing gays are not caused and determined.
The blatant inner contradictions come into focus here in that the former (gays) supposedly lack free will, thus are innocent victims of ‘gene-gods’ (caused & determined) while the latter obviously do have free will in that their thoughts and male-femaleness are independant of ‘causation.’
Modernity’s neo-paganism takes two forms: positivist materialism-secular humanism and Cosmic Humanism. Note the language common to both: caused (by the gods) and determined (fated by the gods)and variations on that theme: genetically determined, triune brain, socially constructed.
Great observation... In other words, fantasy is their medium of infinitization...
‘Gayness’ is ‘fully caused’ by ‘genetics’ and heteronormativity is the neo-sin of believing gays are not caused and determined.
Even though it is a scientific fact that evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships.
Adherents to 'modernity’s neo-paganism' (as you call it) have a little trouble making that admission.
I think I mentioned that anti-Semitism was not tolerated here, either in that post or the one before it. But you are correct—although many conservative Christians are her, it is not our exclusive province. Judeo-Christian in morality and outlook might be a better way to characterize the site’s value system.
I was responding to a complaint by a FReeper who was being annoyed by an atheist who was likely a retread troll.
It says ENFORCED ATHEISM. And a FReeper complained that you were basically forcing it on him/her in an annoying way.
‘Thomas Jefferson was a Founding Father, not the FOREMOST of them except to Democrats’
Exactly
Oldspice does sound familiar...wonder who?
The Founding Fathers were not atheist...thats certainly true.
I don’t know why he won’t answer your questions...perhaps he can’t ...
“The prominent Founding Fathers shared her views.”
Funny, I live not far from teh New Windsor cantonment, and at said site George Washington himself ordered the construction of a chuurch.
And he officiated prayers there.
Atheist you say?
Would an atheist do that?
Because she could not...
Morality and all of those associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition that some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior.
The very idea that human beings have individual rights not subject to the whims of an earthly monarch, but subject to the laws of Yahweh, is directly from Moses.
Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence...
"...to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them... that all men are created... Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world... with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence..."
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