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To: Probonopublico
The Burden of Proof is always with the Plaintiff and right now Orly has exactly ZERO that will stand up in Court

OK, fine. What evidence could she possibly have access to that would satisfy the "stand up in court" criteria? The best would be the original Hawaiian birth certificate, but she's denied access to that. Any foreign birth certificate suffers from the access problem as well, either because of similar privacy laws, or what could be called "political interferance". IOW the government of Kenya is not about to release and authenticate a birth certificate for the cousin of their prime minister that would show his cuz ineligible to the office of Presidentof the US.

But if you can't name any theoretical evidence that would be accessable to the plaintifs, then you are using the "rules" to deny them any possiblity of having their case decided on it merits, cause you'll never get to the merits.

Even proving, in a legal sense, BHO Sr was his father and that he was not a US citizen would be impossible under your interpretation of the rules. Visa records, government controls them. Birth certificate (to prove paternity), "private". Marriage license records "private".

You can't deny one side access to all possible admissible evidence and pretend you have a system of justice.

226 posted on 09/16/2009 5:49:23 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Good post Gato. You’ve expanded on our thoughts very well. :-)


227 posted on 09/16/2009 6:00:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: El Gato
You can't deny one side access to all possible admissible evidence and pretend you have a system of justice.

You can't grant one side "discovery" to go on a fishing expedition to support their ever expanding claims against their enemy and pretend that you have a system of justice.

In order to state a claim, you have to have SOME credible evidence to support it first. You don't have to be able to PROVE your claim -- that's what discovery and trial is for -- but you have to have SOME evidence to support it.

To date, she's failed to provide credible evidence to support her claims (and, on some claims, there is publicly available, credible evidence that disproves her claims).
230 posted on 09/16/2009 6:12:54 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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