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Fresh Fossil Feather Nanostructures (fossils make far better sense w/o assumption of million of year
ICR News ^ | September 16, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 09/16/2009 9:03:13 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: GunRunner
“I think the other creationists are embarrassed by him, and I have every intention of trying to make him the poster child creationist on this forum by taunting him into making some other asinine statement.”

Can you point to any evidence of “other creationists are embarrassed by him”, OR “...TP wants to be respected by his fellow creationists for his grasp of the issue, but its quite obvious they don't”? and what does it say of you even if,

“by taunting him into making some other asinine statement”?

Whose respect are you attempting to garner here?
Creationists? ID’ers? Darwinist's? YEC folk? Or perhaps...your own?

281 posted on 09/17/2009 10:53:29 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: GunRunner; faucetman

“Nice that you included some psychologists and pediatricians on there. Haha! They’re such experts on the age of the Earth.”

—I particularly liked the dentists, “food science”, geographers,linguists, “DVM” (I had to look that one up - veterinarian!), and my favorite - the plastic surgeons.

When you have to stretch things that far - to get a list that short - that says something.


282 posted on 09/17/2009 10:54:20 AM PDT by goodusername
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To: count-your-change
Whose respect are you attempting to garner here?

No one. I come to the CrEvo threads a few days a month strictly for amusement, and it always delivers.

I never post to TP initially, he always seeks me out and tries out his new insults. This time he accused me of believing in evolution because I listen to Chris Matthews.

When I told him that I don't watch Chris Matthews and never have, he started calling Matthews my "buddy", and accused me of trying to help him with the "evo-atheist agenda".

Its really pretty funny if you just step back for a minute. He's like a crazy person, and unintentionally funny.

283 posted on 09/17/2009 11:02:32 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Manic_Episode

“No, I mean the abusive pricks that pile on with daily ridicule, calling theory fact.”

How about the abusive pricks that post the daily steaming pile of dung and call it God-approved “science”?


284 posted on 09/17/2009 11:12:41 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: count-your-change; GunRunner

“Can you point to any evidence of “other creationists are embarrassed by him””

How about you give us empirical data - Are you embarrassed by TP’s rants about how everyone who disagrees with him is a “liberal”, among other things?

If not, is there any humiliation that you aren’t willing to endure?


285 posted on 09/17/2009 11:16:29 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: GunRunner

“Its really pretty funny if you just step back for a minute. He’s like a crazy person, and unintentionally funny. “

I must confess that I have found your dialog with TP throughout the thread amongst the finest entertainment I’ve seen here in a while.


286 posted on 09/17/2009 11:18:34 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: goodusername
You may be right. I was referring to this line, but now I realize that “some life” may be referring to the limited quantity of life forms carried on the hypothetical meteor:

“The hypothesis that [some] life [has actually] originated on this Earth through moss-grown fragments from the ruins of another world may seem wild and visionary; all I maintain is that it is not unscientific, [and cannot rightly be said to be improbable.]”

However, I think his larger argument is this: since we are bound by the latest fashion in science to only invoke naturalistic explanations for the origin of life, and since the Earth is finite, and since it is a law that life only comes from life (which implies that the origin of life is eternal and therefore did not originate from either the Earth or the Universe), then the only plausible naturalistic explanation is that life came from preexisting life from outer space, which pushes the origin life back, but still requires said eternal life (God) to get extraterrestrial life started.

In short, after reading this and other writings of Lord Kelvin, I still consider him a Christian creationist, but he certainly isn't of the 6-10,000 year variety. And yet, he does not hold the same views as the old earthers either (as they believe the Earth is much older than Lord Kelvin did, nor do they flirt with the idea that life came from outer space...but plenty of IDers do!...and yet he's not an IDer either...hmmmm.....).

287 posted on 09/17/2009 11:18:46 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: RFEngineer
I rest my case.
288 posted on 09/17/2009 11:23:07 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: RFEngineer

It’s like being back on the schoolyard again. It’s fun in small doses.


289 posted on 09/17/2009 11:30:23 AM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Manic_Episode

“I rest my case.”

And it was rested with your own poetic words from your previous post.


290 posted on 09/17/2009 11:32:49 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: GunRunner

“It’s like being back on the schoolyard again.”

Except there is more whining and crying.


291 posted on 09/17/2009 11:33:40 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: GunRunner
Humiliation? Embarrassment? Not to me, no more than you or anyone else is since I'm the only person that speaks for or represents me.

And if, “He's like a crazy person, and unintentionally funny”, why engage him at all? I mean these articles weren't posted just to provide a opportunity for you to taunt someone you feel in a morally superior position to or for your amusement, (a reasonable assumption).

292 posted on 09/17/2009 11:56:22 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: RFEngineer
"And it was rested with your own poetic words from your previous post."

===================================

I'd wager you do quite a bit of parroting then thinking yourself clever for it.

293 posted on 09/17/2009 11:57:38 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: count-your-change
Why engage him at all?

Why not? It's funny; we've been doing it for years. Why do you have such a problem with it.

If I find amusement with people posting articles about a 6,000 year old Earth, viruses being caused by sin, and geocentrism, that's no fault of mine.

294 posted on 09/17/2009 12:07:53 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Manic_Episode

“I’d wager you do quite a bit of parroting then thinking yourself clever for it.”

Well, “abusive prick” was too amusing a term to not parrot back to you when I read your post.

Why are you so angry? I mean, really, you “creation science” guys should be of good cheer. All the folks that believe in science and evolution will be going to hell, just where you want them to be and where you’ll never have to deal with them again (along with that neighbor who’s dog barks at night, and the person who cut you off in traffic the other day), and God will be happy that rather than having blind faith in Him, you sought to prove your faith with inconclusive and irrelevant “research”.

God likes it when you use fake science to test to see if He exists, and then seek to diminish those people who actually advance their God-given faculties to understand the universe He provided for us, doesn’t He?


295 posted on 09/17/2009 12:18:08 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: count-your-change

“I mean these articles weren’t posted just to provide a opportunity for you to taunt someone you feel in a morally superior position to or for your amusement, (a reasonable assumption). “

Well, I understand that. However, it is simply a fortuitous coincidence that the articles posted on creation make it so easy to taunt, and flex intellectual superiority, and amuse those who espouse “creation science”.

The “moral superiority” angle is why “creation science” advocates post these threads. They are too scared to tell scientifically-minded people to their faces that they should “Go to hell, heretic” so they do it in a passive aggressive way, by posting “creation science” threads.


296 posted on 09/17/2009 12:25:26 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
I rest my case again.

You can keep telling me what my opinion is tho if you want, don't let me stop you.

297 posted on 09/17/2009 12:53:02 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Manic_Episode

“You can keep telling me what my opinion is tho if you want, don’t let me stop you.”

I liked you better when you were calling people that disagree with you “Abusive Pricks”. You were much more fun then.

Can’t we get back to those sort of mad-cap “creation science” antics, or must this thread die, like all the rest do, in a whimper of inconclusivity?


298 posted on 09/17/2009 1:04:32 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer; GunRunner

I’m of the mind that anyone that posts here is able to defend themselves so I feel no obligation to do so for them and thus any “problem” I have is with the utter pettiness of your desire to provoke someone, anyone, by taunting.

I can say, being neither a Darwinist or of the YEC persuasion, that it does tell much more about your character(s) than that of the “creationists” and of a certainty separates you from the “scientifically-minded people” you say the”“creation science” advocates” are scared to address with an anathema.

Added to all is that your ridicule is really crashingly, mind crushingly boring. Boring, not “intellectual superiority”, just pedestrian and petty.


299 posted on 09/17/2009 2:08:14 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Manic_Episode; RFEngineer
I rest my case again.

You can keep telling me what my opinion is tho if you want, don't let me stop you.

Liberals project-alot. You learn alot about a liberal through their projections.

300 posted on 09/17/2009 2:21:15 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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