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I was wondering what the tort reform crowd would say about this case.
1 posted on 09/16/2009 6:51:45 AM PDT by frithguild
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To: frithguild

She voluntarily mounted the horse. She also had previous riding experience. She was stupid to sue someone for her choices.


2 posted on 09/16/2009 6:56:16 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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Honey, just give ol' Nitro a sugar cube and he'll calm right down.

3 posted on 09/16/2009 6:56:35 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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They would say “these cases are less than 3 %” which of course is BS..


4 posted on 09/16/2009 6:57:12 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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I’d say that one takes one’s chances when getting on a horse. Its wise to do ground drills with any horse you
plan to ride. If you can’t round pen your mount and get
it to do what you want it to do on the ground, don’t ride
it.


5 posted on 09/16/2009 6:57:46 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: frithguild
My take:

I would say it makes the case for tort reform. A horse acted badly (debatable), there was an accident and somehow it's her date's fault b/c he didn't pick the right horse?! Please. I'm so sick of finger pointing over things that are clearly accidents.....shit happens and it stinks...welcome to the world and stop trying to blame. How about some personal responsibility...
6 posted on 09/16/2009 6:59:58 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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I agree with the ruling. If you choose to jump over things on horseback, you know you are engaging in a potentially dangerous activity.

If lawsuits like this one succeed, eventually we'll have no more horseback riding, white water rafting, swimming, diving, rock climbing, or any other potentially dangerous recreational activities, or they will be so prohibitively expensive, due to high liability insurance premiums, that only the very wealthy will be able to afford them.

8 posted on 09/16/2009 7:00:22 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: frithguild
There is an inherent risk in horseback riding. Same goes for sports like skiing, diving, rock-climing, you name it...she took the risk and got hurt. Her date from that day owes her nothing, financially speaking. It's not his fault that the horse, a living creature, threw her. Also, she obviously had no control of the horse...and that's one of the first things you learn when riding...you have to show the horse "who is boss" otherwise it'll do whatever it wants to! Horses are smart and they can sense when the rider is afraid and has no control...either way, it's not in any way the fault of the date...

The judge is correct in his finding, IMO.

9 posted on 09/16/2009 7:01:38 AM PDT by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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She didn’t sue match.com for not protecting her from her own incompetence?


12 posted on 09/16/2009 7:05:54 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Everyone signing up after Nov 28, 1997 is a newbie.)
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Accidents like this are why I prefer dirtbikes. The bike is just as fast, just as powerful (though granted not as quiet), but is far more predictable. It always does exactly what you tell it to, no matter what the consequences.


17 posted on 09/16/2009 7:10:08 AM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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If she really were a horseback rider, she would know full well that horses, not unlike dogs or children, love to make a liar out of you. So, perhaps she fraudulently misrepresented her experience with horses?

Maybe I am too cynical, but this lawsuit is so frivolous and inane that it has the feel of a bitter, jilted woman trying to get payback, rather than an honest citizen who believes she has a real, legally actionable case.

She should be required to pay all the legal costs, as well as reimburse the courts for their wasted time.


18 posted on 09/16/2009 7:10:24 AM PDT by delphirogatio (Many are the woes of the wicked, but the LORD's unfailing love surrounds the man who trusts in him.)
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To: frithguild

Anyone who gets on a horse’s back - or is around them on the ground - has to accept the risk of injury or death. A horse can be “bomb-proof”, but if it meets a bomb it hasn’t seen before (blowing paper, motorcycle, etc), all the proofing can disappear fast.

With experience, you can reduce the probability, but you cannot eliminate it. Many states have laws that specifically address this.

FWIW - Federico Caprilli invented the ‘forward seat’ for jumping with horses, now used by everyone. He was killed in 1907 (age 39) when his horse slipped and fell on icy cobblestones...

http://www.sporthorsesnewzealand.com/caprilli.html


19 posted on 09/16/2009 7:12:12 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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If she had to have a craniotomy, it sounds as though she wasn’t wearing an approved helmet. And that was her own stupid fault. Nobody should get on a horse without a helmet. The greatest experts wear helmets, and sometimes when they don’t they end up dead (just last year a dressage master in California, schooling a very quiet and well-trained horse on the flat and on a soft surface, fell off and sustained a fatal head injury).

Horse do stuff. Horses are dangerous. Even the most gentle horse weighs at least a thousand pounds, and few of them have much sense of responsibility. If you ride, you’re taking a risk. It’s part of the deal, and lawsuits don’t change that. If you don’t want to risk injury or death, don’t ride.

P.S.: Last Sunday, schooling an obnoxious off-the-track Thoroughbred (my specialty, as per my screenname) I fell off for the first time in two years. I landed on my head and neck. If I had not been wearing a top-of-the-line approved CO helmet I would have had a serious head injury.


20 posted on 09/16/2009 7:12:53 AM PDT by ottbmare (Ein Reich, ein Volk, ein Obama!)
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My daughter has ridden for years, and in the stable is clearly posted a Kansas law stating that just being in the barn means you accept any and all risks from being around the horses. So I’d say tort reform in that area is ahead of the curve.


22 posted on 09/16/2009 7:17:26 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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"I'm a Liberal. Everyone is responsible for me . . . but me!"

I saw demonstrations of this belief every time I had the misfortune of driving through Cambridge, Mass. as good little Libs blithely hurled themselves into the path of my on-coming vehicle confident that a law requiring me to yield would in every instance bring half a ton of steel to a stop.

23 posted on 09/16/2009 7:19:34 AM PDT by Oratam
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Woman sues man - how 20th century. Hire Cass Sunstein and sue the horse.


34 posted on 09/16/2009 7:49:34 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: ryan71; boxerblues; Hammy; Petruchio; Phinanceguy; DollyCali; Yorlik803; ...

My advice: Don't date liberals looking for a quick buck. Don't use Match.com Too many scammers. And, guys? Steer clear of Barbara Ann Stanislav.
38 posted on 09/16/2009 8:29:44 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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From the article:

“the two horse lovers made plans to go on a date to a Westchester, N.Y., stable. “

“But on their third date, when the two met on a winter afternoon, the day took a tragic turn. “

“Following the accident, Papp and Stanislav remained in touch for about two years.”

“Two years later, Stanislav, sued Papp, claiming he failed to provide her with an obedient horse . . . “

IOW, They decided to go horseback riding on a date. On their third date, she fell. After dating for another two years, out of the blue she sues him.

What is wrong with this picture????


42 posted on 09/16/2009 10:33:32 AM PDT by Petruchio (Democrats are like Slinkies... Not good for anything, but it's fun pushing 'em down the stairs.)
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To: frithguild

Have they mentioned whether ‘Teddy’ has filed suit yet?

This time next year he’ll be able to file.


52 posted on 09/16/2009 12:04:42 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: frithguild

The Judge ruled correctly.


60 posted on 09/17/2009 6:49:32 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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