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To: wintertime; Uncle Sham
I would also think that being natural born is an intrinsic quality, just as being a black man or white woman is fundamental to one’s being and can not be created by the whim of any legislative body. A thousand Electoral Colleges can vote a person president, but if he is not natural born, he will **always** be a fraud if occupying the White House as president.

Precisely.

Some posters here have erroneously said: "There are only two kinds of citizens: natural-born and naturalized" (and then they often go on to say that born on American soil = citizen at birth = natural born).

They are mistaken.

It is true there are only two kinds of citizens.

However, those two kinds are:

citizen by NATURE (i.e. natural born); and

citizen by STATUTE (this includes naturalized and those "citizens from birth" born on the nation's soil).

A citizen by nature is natural-born, he is undisputedly and undoubtedly a citizen, he needs NO statute of any kind to explain or clarify his citizenship.

It's so simple, and yet so many posters here seem to misunderstand this.

76 posted on 09/15/2009 8:38:25 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

>>> A citizen by nature is natural-born, he is undisputedly and undoubtedly a citizen, he needs NO statute of any kind to explain or clarify his citizenship.

Not true.

Not only must one be born on US soil, but BOTH parents must be US citizens.

Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, he still doesn’t qualify as natural born, because his father was not a US citizen.


83 posted on 09/15/2009 8:43:53 PM PDT by Safrguns
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