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Liar, Liar
Townhall.com ^ | September 15, 2009 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 09/15/2009 4:47:33 AM PDT by Kaslin

Wouldn't it be nice, as The Beach Boys sang in another context, if there was such a thing as a liar meter? It would detect when a politician wasn't telling the truth and alert the public. In the absence of such an invention, we are left to challenge our political leadership based on an objective look at the facts.

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) may have been out of order when he shouted, "You lie!" in response to President Obama's assertion in his congressional address Wednesday night that illegal immigrants would not be covered by his proposed health care plan. What if the administration plans to bar illegal immigrants from purchasing health care coverage, but as the New York Times reported, continues "to require hospitals to provide emergency treatment to illegal immigrants at taxpayer expense? Would that then absolve Wilson of his rude behavior?

If we believe the president when he promises there will be no "death panels," does he lose honesty points when instead the government sends doctors who "counsel" the elderly about their "end of life options"? If bureaucrats end up rationing care so that only the "fit" or "near fit" still young enough to keep producing tax revenue receive treatment, does this weaken the president's credibility?

If the sensibilities of the few who remember what "good etiquette" means were offended by Congressman Wilson's shouted remark, shouldn't they be equally offended by Democrats, including Majority Leader Harry Reid who called former President Bush a "loser" and a "liar" and then apologized for saying he was a loser, but did not apologize for saying he was a liar? "Bush lied, people died," said the bumper sticker. No one apologized (much less repented) for that sentiment.

Is it a lie to say, as the president did, that his plan will be paid for and that the money will come largely from Medicare and Medicaid funds that are currently being wasted and/or fraudulently spent? According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the House Democrats' bill (the only one whose details we've seen) would increase the deficit by "$239 billion over the 2010-2019 period. A recent study by the Lewin Group, a healthcare policy research and management-consulting firm owned by United Healthcare Group, one of the nation's largest insurers, found that "(in) the second 10 years ... the proposal would add an estimated $1 trillion to the federal deficit." Is saying otherwise a lie? Lewin also projects that two out of three Americans will lose their current health coverage and "the cost of private health coverage will skyrocket." Is it an untruth to say otherwise, as the president has?

The president says federal dollars won't pay for abortions, but in none of the bills under consideration is there a specific prohibition -- as in the Hyde Amendment -- against such spending.

The Senate confirmation last Thursday of Cass Sunstein as the administrator of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs in the Office of Management and Budget means Sunstein will have the power to decide what Congress means by the laws it passes. Sunstein has written books and given lectures in which he says that animals deserve lawyers to argue for their "rights" and that the Second Amendment does not grant an absolute right to keep and bear arms. He also has said he wants to ban hunting. Sunstein's defenders say those statements were simply academic exercises and would not be implemented as policy in his new position. Tell that to Bob McDonnell, candidate for governor of Virginia, who has been smeared by Democrats for a thesis he wrote more than 20 years ago in which he took "academic" positions his detractors say were anti-women's rights.

The President and his defenders can't have it both ways. They can't be offended when they are called liars and think nothing of labeling as liars those they don't agree with. President Obama regularly uses the "L" word, most recently in his Labor Day and congressional speeches in which he accused his critics of spreading "lies." Are we to believe that he is the only one virtuous enough to tell the truth and anyone who disagrees with him is lying?

Someone please invent that political lie detector. We need it now more than ever.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: joespeaksforme; joewilson; obama; obamacare; youlie

1 posted on 09/15/2009 4:47:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

What does it mean when decorum must be shattered and the law must be broken (Baltimore?) in order to get the truth from a system that lives on lies?


2 posted on 09/15/2009 4:49:05 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: Kaslin
Someone please invent that political lie detector. We need it now more than ever.

We already have perfectly adequate 'political lie detectors'. They are called EARS. We know lies when we hear them and we hear them non-stop 24/7 from Obama, our congress critters, various policiticians of all ilk and the media. What we REALLY need is more Joe Wilsons - folks who stand on principle and have the moral fiber and backbone to call a liar a liar to his face. Thank you Joe.

3 posted on 09/15/2009 4:52:51 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Obad. 1:15: As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.)
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To: Kaslin
The people are figuring this out. Despite daily speeches, and Sixty Minutes with Barack Obama...support for his monstrosity plan continues to be lacking.

That's because the people know he is telling lie after lie about it.

The realization is sinking in that his other initiatives, plans, and promises are full of the same. Once that really sinks in...


OBAMA'S IMAGE FALLS TO THE MOB

4 posted on 09/15/2009 4:54:09 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: MissMagnolia

Very well said


5 posted on 09/15/2009 4:56:31 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

It used to be called “Pinnochio’s nose”.


6 posted on 09/15/2009 4:56:53 AM PDT by Calm_Cool_and_Elected (Who is John Thompson?)
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To: MissMagnolia
Someone please invent that political lie detector. We need it now more than ever.

If their lips are moving they are lying.

7 posted on 09/15/2009 4:58:50 AM PDT by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: Kaslin

These days, with the vast majority of pols, all one needs to detect lies is a lip-motion detector.


8 posted on 09/15/2009 5:01:16 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Kaslin

re: may have been out of order when he shouted, “You lie!”

I don’t think he was out of order. Maybe it’s time for a change in the rules. Only in Congress can one party drown out the President with boos when he speaks and it’s OK, but say two words when a different President is at the podium.

He owes nobody an apology, period! In fact, Congress owes us an apology for constructing such a convoluted seat of law making.

I love it! The Democrats think they are coming out ahead by keeping this in the forefront, it’s been a week now, but in reality all they’re doing is getting Mr. Wilson more and more contributions. It’s a big deal only to the Democrats! For me it’s just one more sign of how well aware they are of how badly things are going for them!


9 posted on 09/15/2009 5:27:30 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America, and wake us up while you're about it!)
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To: Kaslin

A political lie detector? It’s called your educated, objectively-reasoning mind.


10 posted on 09/15/2009 5:27:59 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: Kaslin

If a large hammer was to hit Obama on his head every time he told a lie, his noggin would be flat as a pancake by now.


11 posted on 09/15/2009 5:33:15 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: Kaslin

I think the song “Liar!” by Three Dog Night would be more appropriate.


12 posted on 09/15/2009 5:51:05 AM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Kaslin
Pass this on to Cal? [photo capture of meter during B.O.'s speechL]


13 posted on 09/15/2009 1:13:11 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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