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To: RobinMasters

Been reading Sunsteins articles.

Here’s one “The Rights of Animals: A Very Short Primer”
http://www.scribd.com/doc/11065802/The-Rights-of-Animals-A-Very-Short-Primer

“We do not, after all, allow scientists to experiment on human beings, even human beings with serious disabilities, when and because medical advances would be significant.” - page 8

“even human beings with serious disabilities”

It seems like Sunstein thinks that it’s worse to experiment on humans without disabilities than it is to experiment on humans with disabilities.

Put differently, Mengele would’ve been more acceptible if his subjects had serious disabilities.

This is very similar to Holdren’s - babies don’t become human until after “essential early socializing experiences”.

I think we here on FR all pretty much agree that people are people and animals are animals. All people have human rights. It seems like a bunch of Obama’s people aren’t clear on this.


33 posted on 09/15/2009 8:04:28 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

Also from “Rights” - page 11

“Hence some people urge that certain animals, at least, are “persons,” not property, and that they should have many of the legal rights that human beings have. Of course this does not mean that those animals can vote or run for office. Their status would be akin to that of children - a status commensurate with their capacities.” - Page 11

A good SNL sketch - fake game show, “Which is the person?”
The contestants would be Sustein, Holdren and Peter Singer from Princeton.

Show a slide of a dog. Sustein buzzes in. “Well, I’ve written that “certain animals, at least, are “persons” ... their status would be akin to that of children” so I’ll say yes, the dog is a person.” Audience boos. Big buzzer. Host - “I’m sorry, that is a dog. A dog is not a person. Have you been released recently from a mental institution?”

Sustein - “No”

Now, let’s meet our guests. What do you do?

I work for the Obama administration.

Phone rings.

I have some bad news for you Cass.


36 posted on 09/15/2009 8:35:47 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom

The quotes you cite echo Pete Singer’s view that parents should be allowed to abort their children up to age five or six.

Fits nicely with the DeathCare premise that resources should be allocated to healthy people between 15 and 40, No?


37 posted on 09/15/2009 8:37:01 PM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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